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Kicked out of childcare

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Kaitey · 02/10/2024 22:06

My son aged 10 is SEN ASD/ADHD EHCP and medicated.

We have been using the same wrap around childcare linked in with school for 6 years.

Today I was told my son had pulled another childs hair. There have been several issues over the years but in all I would say around 6 physical interactions with other children in the last 6 years (although 2 in the last 4 weeks).

I was told today if my son does one more physical interaction he will no longer be welcome with immediate effect.

I've used them for 6 years and it's my sons usual routine and I also work fulltime and would not be able to work or pay my mortgage.

Can they just do this? With no notice? I've never had any behaviour contract given to me it's just been a few verbal discussions but to just say he will no longer be allowed to go is really worrying as it will be a huge financial impact on our family as well as unsettling for my son who really enjoys going.

He is also the only SEN child who goes to this club. My daughter goes as well and it cost around £500 a month for wrap around care. I would have thought I would be given a months notice given weve used them for 6 years. I'm so upset. Im a single mum with limited family support and my children rely on me to provide for them. Im so stressed

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qwertyasdfgzxcv · 02/10/2024 22:32

I don't know. I do know that a school can't discriminate due to his diagnosis as it is viewed like a disability. Surely you can understand how difficult it must be for the child care setting if your son acts up. With his diagnoses, this extra after school care might be too much for him.

stichguru · 02/10/2024 22:46

What support is the club giving to your son? I mean they don't have to follow the rules a school has to follow with respect to inclusion, but under the Equality Act, they shouldn't just exclude him immediately for behaving in a way that other children wouldn't because of his disability.

Having said that, there also won't be money to provide support for him, like there would be (some) in school, so if he needs more support than they can provide with the staff they can afford, then they may just not be able to take him.

I don't think they would need to provide written warnings or notice, if your son is just not coping and their is no way they can provide extra support. It won't be fair on him, the other kids, or the staff, to keep him there. If it is being a horrible and unsettling experience for him and other children, and there is no way of any more support being funded, banning him essentially with no notice is probably the best thing for him, the other children and the club staff.

Geneticsbunny · 02/10/2024 22:49

Are they getting extra money from the council to provide extra support for your son?

You need to go to the council and ask for a carers needs assessment. Someone will chat to you either in person or on the phone about your support needs ass a family and they are then able to provide funding to the after school clud in order to get extra staff to support your sons needs

Our local service is called snips but it might be called something else where you are.

SheilaFentiman · 02/10/2024 22:51

I imagine it has been the two incidents in 4 weeks as the issue. They haven’t given you notice but they have given you a warning, though I know it is harder for him with SEN to respond to it.

OhcantthInkofaname · 02/10/2024 22:57

They cannot discriminate because of diagnosis but they can rule on behavior. Something has changed and he needs something different --- setting or medication.

Octavia64 · 02/10/2024 23:02

Schools have more of a duty to include as they are provided by the state and are expected to be accessible.

Private childcare that wraps around that doesn't have the same level of requirements. There's no funding they can get to sort out a 1:1 etc.

In the same way that an employer can fire someone and give them their pay instead of them working their notice the wrap around can ask your son to leave and refund the money you have paid instead of notice.

MSLRT · 02/10/2024 23:05

From a safeguarding point of view it isn’t fair on the other children if they are being physically attacked The after school facility has a duty of care to all the children. It doesn’t matter how long you have been there.

TeenToTwenties · 03/10/2024 09:24

Can the EHCP be altered to have support in after school club? (Guessing not ...)

Tittibits · 01/12/2024 00:55

ADHD meds can run out by mid afternoon. Could this be the problem? Some Drs give them a smaller dose to get them through to home time, or split the dose.

b0zza1 · 01/12/2024 01:18

My son sounds similar. Because the wrap around care is not sen provision I think they can say no to children if they are hurting other children, from a legal perspective. Unstructured time, like after school club are especially demanding for my son. Is there anything that keeps him calm? For example my son is quiet as a mouse with his tablet and watching TV. He's the same with listening to audio books. I wonder if you could speak to whoever is on charge of the after school provision and ask if there is anything they could do to accommodate him if screen time does regulate him. I think my son has been allowed to use school tablets on a separate space though still with adult supervision? Good luck

Edingril · 01/12/2024 01:26

I presume they have a duty of care to all children in their care and can't have victims put up with being physically hurt repeatedly

So yes I would assume they can do this

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