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Girl guiding

26 replies

TM80 · 06/02/2023 17:20

Just out of interest, what activities does your child do at girl guiding at the meetings, and any trips, etc?

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456pickupsticks · 07/02/2023 22:05

A huge range of things, generally they cover games, crafts, different themed nights, earning badges and more.

This term our Brownie unit have had a games night, a team building newspaper challenge night, learned about the brownie promise, been ice skating, done some basic sewing skills, done science experiments, will be doing a craft next week, celebrating thinking day, having a pizza making night, a bring an adult night (for mother's Day), have one of our oldest brownies leading a night and having an Easter party. Recent trips have included a district camp, a chippy hike and a cinema trip.

We plan termly, and try to include some outdoor activities in summer, and celebrate some different festivals and cultures each year, run trips we think girls would like, and run joint events with Rainbows or Guides every so often. Girls in the unit get a chance to suggest things they'd like us to include in our planning too, so it's very girl led.

OwlOfBrown · 07/02/2023 23:17

What age child are you asking about, OP?

Like 456pickupsticks, my Brownies (7-10) do all sorts at our meetings. We've done fire-lighting and tent pitching, DIY, local climbing wall, played football, hike and chips, painting, craft, games, etc. For trips, we've been to the cinema, to a boating lake, to an air show and to PGL recently. We're in the process of organising a residential for a few nights this summer.

TM80 · 09/02/2023 18:22

@456pickupsticks The activities sounds well planned and definitely a wide variety, I like the balance of the life skills and leisure ones. My daughter's guide group tends to play games every week, I was hoping they would be learning basic sewing, knitting, etc.

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TM80 · 09/02/2023 18:24

@OwlOfBrown My daughter is 11, I have heard the range of activities can vary from group to group. It sound fun the group your one goes to.

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alisonofagun · 09/02/2023 18:27

TM80 · 09/02/2023 18:22

@456pickupsticks The activities sounds well planned and definitely a wide variety, I like the balance of the life skills and leisure ones. My daughter's guide group tends to play games every week, I was hoping they would be learning basic sewing, knitting, etc.

If it helps, a lot of the "games" we play in my guide unit are actually activities towards badges, the girls just don't realise half the time!

alisonofagun · 09/02/2023 18:31

TM80 · 09/02/2023 18:24

@OwlOfBrown My daughter is 11, I have heard the range of activities can vary from group to group. It sound fun the group your one goes to.

Is your daughter enjoying herself? I would say that's the main thing. Regardless of not learning to sew/knit, she's mixing with girls from other schools (at least in most cases anyway) and not always in her friendship group - an important life skill.

We also find that our girls just sometimes really value the opportunity to be "children" without the stress and pressure of school and boys and outside influences. Even the oldest, too-cool-for-school ones come out of themselves when they're running around being silly 🙂

456pickupsticks · 09/02/2023 18:53

alisonofagun · 09/02/2023 18:31

Is your daughter enjoying herself? I would say that's the main thing. Regardless of not learning to sew/knit, she's mixing with girls from other schools (at least in most cases anyway) and not always in her friendship group - an important life skill.

We also find that our girls just sometimes really value the opportunity to be "children" without the stress and pressure of school and boys and outside influences. Even the oldest, too-cool-for-school ones come out of themselves when they're running around being silly 🙂

I'd totally agree with that - If she's enjoying it and having fun that's the main thing! For what it's worth, we also play a game nearly every week, even if it's just for ten minutes at the beginning while girls are arriving and to get their energy out before we begin.
Most units would only maybe cover a traditional skill like sewing or knitting once every few years, and in not much depth to be honest. Depends on the leaders, but there's a lot of people who will moan online about Girlguiding just doing 'traditional girly stuff like sewing and crafts', so its definitely a balance between balancing skills and excitement and things the girls actually want to do.

The interest badges are designed to be worked on at home, and for Guides I know there's a craft-ivism badge, so if your daughter is interested in sewing and knitting she could have a go at that at home!

TM80 · 09/02/2023 21:28

The guides that my daughter goes to do not work towards any of the badges, I'm not sure why and I haven't asked the leader why not.

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TM80 · 09/02/2023 21:33

That's a really good point @alisonofagun , it is so important and a valuable life skill to be able to socialise and form friendships with other people.
She loves the meetings and always comes out with a huge smile on her face 😊

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FatAgainItsLettuceTime · 09/02/2023 22:02

DD started Brownies a couple of months ago, they seem to work towards the badges covertly as she's earned a couple without knowing what for 🤣

She seems to mainly like it (me too) because she gets to just spend time with a load of girls playing and having fun without boys around. I think that's important, she gets loads of female perspectives and people to look up to with the older teen volunteers and the more grandma-y volunteers.

OwlOfBrown · 10/02/2023 11:49

FatAgainItsLettuceTime · 09/02/2023 22:02

DD started Brownies a couple of months ago, they seem to work towards the badges covertly as she's earned a couple without knowing what for 🤣

She seems to mainly like it (me too) because she gets to just spend time with a load of girls playing and having fun without boys around. I think that's important, she gets loads of female perspectives and people to look up to with the older teen volunteers and the more grandma-y volunteers.

If they are small hexagonal badges then they are called Skills Builders and yes, girls work towards those in meetings. The activities that count towards them are sometimes a bit random so probably fairly easy for Brownies not to realise quite what they have done to earn the badge if the leader hasn't been extremely clear or the girls haven't been listening properly! 😀

Perry34 · 10/02/2023 11:59

Ours just does games, and after years of earning badges in other units, this one just seems crap in comparison, and nothing Girlguiding about it. They claim the subs pay for badges but I can only assume that’s the one bloody £1-2 promise badge. There’s been nothing else.

they’ve organised a camp but I wouldn’t trust the leaders with my kid on camp tbh 😂 they are the most disorganised bunch I’ve known and I used to be a volunteer.

im not sure why my daughter still wants to go, I think it’s just to see her mates. I’d happily take her out if she would say!

Honestly, I don’t think highly of Girlguiding as a whole anymore, but I know more than I let on.

rachrose8 · 11/03/2023 09:06

I’ve run a successful Guide unit for 30+ years, with a great leadership team. We tend to do a Skills Builder badge each term but the Interest Badges are for the girls to do on their own. We find that most aren’t bothered about doing the badges, they come to Guides to have fun.
Our programme is a mix of the official stuff and then other activities we know work well over the year (games, crafts, scavenger hunt, BBQ). We have an indoor weekend in late November where we do Christmas activities and crafts which is always popular and then a camp in the summer most years.

Each Guide unit is different, and remember that all the leaders are volunteers and will have their own preferences for activities and knowledge of what works well (some of the official activities are very dull).

rachrose8 · 11/03/2023 09:11

Perry34 · 10/02/2023 11:59

Ours just does games, and after years of earning badges in other units, this one just seems crap in comparison, and nothing Girlguiding about it. They claim the subs pay for badges but I can only assume that’s the one bloody £1-2 promise badge. There’s been nothing else.

they’ve organised a camp but I wouldn’t trust the leaders with my kid on camp tbh 😂 they are the most disorganised bunch I’ve known and I used to be a volunteer.

im not sure why my daughter still wants to go, I think it’s just to see her mates. I’d happily take her out if she would say!

Honestly, I don’t think highly of Girlguiding as a whole anymore, but I know more than I let on.

I can’t speak about your activities, however as a Guide leader financially our money is very stretched. Apart from Hall Hire (which costs us £30 per week) we have to pay the annual capitation to Girlguiding, which for my region was £45 (and I know is higher in some areas).
We charge £4 a week, paid termly. Of this £3 goes to rent and capitation and so roughly £1 pr week for everything else. Some weeks have no other costs, but others have craft supplies, prizes, Dance instructor, badges etc.

RoseAlan · 16/03/2023 13:27

It seems that there is a huge variance in terms of the activities provided by different local groups. We are based in South Liverpool. My daughter always comes back from Rainbows with some sugary snack. They keep on decorating biscuits etc. Yesterday they made presents for the Mother's Day which was basically three chocolate bars taped on a piece of paper. My daughter's friends go to the group in Chester and they seem to be doing genuine projects. How can I find out the quality of activities provided by different groups? Is there a forum where parents can discuss/recommend regional groups? Thank you.

mumoffourminimes · 16/03/2023 13:34

This is an interesting thread for a leader to read.

In terms of activities this should be girl led. This means when I say to the girls "we can arrange a trip where would you like to go" and they say x,y,z that's what we try to organise for them.

Sometimes they ask for a sleepover, sometimes a night out bowling etc.

60% of the evenings should we badgework (they can vote on which badges too sometimes) and 40% fun stuff. That's why the unit activities vary, it's down to the girls and what they ask for.

SnowAndFrostOutside · 16/03/2023 14:09

Both my daughters are in girl guiding. They started at rainbows. One is in guides and the other in brownies now.

A lot has changed since covid so I will just share recent experiences.

The guide unit is amazing. DC1 joined a year ago. They organised a spring and a summer camp. There are regular activities outside their meeting hall. From memory, in a year, they have been kayaking, wall climbing and ice skating. There were also trips to the surrounding areas like a walk to the woods or the chip shop. There are some division wide activities and a camp with the division.

The brownies unit has become a lot less active since covid. DC1 was at the same unit so I know the difference. The leaders used to ask for parent volunteers but no longer. There used to be little trips out and a yearly sleepover and that’s gone too. They now only do activities in the hall. So just craft and games. But DC2 enjoys it so I don’t mind. But I missed the old pre covid unit.

The rainbows unit was very active with trips out too. Like ice cream shop, shopping at the supermarket, walk to the park. There were trips to soft play and theme park.

GuidingSpirit · 16/03/2023 14:20

SnowAndFrostOutside · 16/03/2023 14:09

Both my daughters are in girl guiding. They started at rainbows. One is in guides and the other in brownies now.

A lot has changed since covid so I will just share recent experiences.

The guide unit is amazing. DC1 joined a year ago. They organised a spring and a summer camp. There are regular activities outside their meeting hall. From memory, in a year, they have been kayaking, wall climbing and ice skating. There were also trips to the surrounding areas like a walk to the woods or the chip shop. There are some division wide activities and a camp with the division.

The brownies unit has become a lot less active since covid. DC1 was at the same unit so I know the difference. The leaders used to ask for parent volunteers but no longer. There used to be little trips out and a yearly sleepover and that’s gone too. They now only do activities in the hall. So just craft and games. But DC2 enjoys it so I don’t mind. But I missed the old pre covid unit.

The rainbows unit was very active with trips out too. Like ice cream shop, shopping at the supermarket, walk to the park. There were trips to soft play and theme park.

As a rainbow and brownie leader, i would say please don't underestimate the impact on covid on us as well.

HQ used the time when most units were closed or online only to implement lots of changes to our policies and procedures. Many leaders are struggling with the amount of paperwork and admin behind the scenes.

On top of that, in our unit there is constant fundraising needs to keep on top of ever rising hall costs etc and a huge long waiting list of girls eager to make up for missing out during covid but no more volunteers to accept any of them.

Im actually soon to give up my units after 10years of being a leader because i resent spending every night after my FT job and putting my own kids to bed doing paperwork and emails related to the unit. I'd love to go back to how it was pre covid but i just have the mental capacity or support to do it anymore.Sad

SnowAndFrostOutside · 16/03/2023 20:05

@GuidingSpirit completely understood the time and effort the leaders put into it. That’s why I’m not complaining. I am just missing the pre covid days and sounds like you do too. We had the new badge system already pre covid because DC1 got the new brownies gold award. So I think it’s not related to the badge system? Or maybe it is because of that and also a lot more changes.

RoseAlan · 16/03/2023 20:54

mumoffourminimes · 16/03/2023 13:34

This is an interesting thread for a leader to read.

In terms of activities this should be girl led. This means when I say to the girls "we can arrange a trip where would you like to go" and they say x,y,z that's what we try to organise for them.

Sometimes they ask for a sleepover, sometimes a night out bowling etc.

60% of the evenings should we badgework (they can vote on which badges too sometimes) and 40% fun stuff. That's why the unit activities vary, it's down to the girls and what they ask for.

This is very interesting! My daughter has been in rainbows for a few months and they did not do any badge work as far as I am aware. They do a bit of colouring and play some games. Also I don't think they have been asked what activity they would like to do.

GuidingSpirit · 17/03/2023 22:13

SnowAndFrostOutside · 16/03/2023 20:05

@GuidingSpirit completely understood the time and effort the leaders put into it. That’s why I’m not complaining. I am just missing the pre covid days and sounds like you do too. We had the new badge system already pre covid because DC1 got the new brownies gold award. So I think it’s not related to the badge system? Or maybe it is because of that and also a lot more changes.

I definitely miss the pre covid days! The new badge system was introduced at the end of 2019 i think? For the first year you could do bits from the old programme and bits from the new programme to get to Gold. Now you can only do the new programme, which is trickier for the girls. And the activities are a lot more prescriptive than they used to be. Obviously leaders can adapt the activities but that needs time and capacity to do so, which is added effort.

But as i say, its not really the badge work thats the issue. Its the HUGE amount of admin needed behind the scenes to do anything other than standard meetings. I know my girls (35 of them so not a small unit) want to do more outings but obviously its just making the time in my life to sit and put everything together for the trip.

456pickupsticks · 24/03/2023 18:32

@SnowAndFrostOutside I'm glad the hear the Guide unit is so active, as that's the age group where lots of girls tend to leave. I'd encourage anyone with daughters in Girlguiding to encourage their daughter to speak up with ideas about what they'd like to do within their unit. We have a pow-wow in our unit most terms where girls can give their ideas, but lots of what we hear are things we've done in the previous couple of terms, so any new ideas are always greatly welcomed, and we try to guide girls for their suggestions.

In terms of the Brownies, particularly with them not asking for parent volunteers, if you're keen to help out, please do drop the leaders an email and let them know what you would be able to do/ what you're willing to help with! In the past year I've had a few parents email to say they're willing to help with overnight trips, or are willing to come and help at a session or two a term, and it's made a difference in us knowing planning and knowing what we're able to offer! We were able to have four local trips in the summer (chippy hike, meetings in a park and water games), because I knew there were enough parents able to help. Similarly we're running a sleepover and a pack holiday this term and I was able to reach out to two of the parents who'd spoken to me previously and said they'd be willing to come away overnight, which meant we could offer the trips to all girls in the unit, but if they hadn't mentioned it I wouldn't have asked.

I'd also say that please be mindful that each unit is run by different volunteers, with different commitments outside of Guiding with different experience, and have girls of vastly different background and abilities. @RoseAlan your local leaders may not have a great deal of time for planning and outings, or may not have the expertise or enough adults to run 'genuine projects'. There's also the massively limiting factor of money, with everything getting more expensive recently, lots of leaders are trying to keep Guiding cheap and accessible, so all the girls who want to can participant, which might mean that where in the past there'd have been a £3 craft kit purchased for each child to build and paint for mothers day, this year it's a drawing and a few chocolates stuck on a homemade note. Also bear in mind that you don't find out everything that happens in a meeting, (we've had it before where we had a parent say we weren't listening to her child's ideas, and we had to point out that our entire previous meeting had been around her daughter's suggested theme.)
At Rainbows age, lots of the having a say is more about 'what colour card would you like?', 'what toppings would you like on your pizza base?', 'would you like to make your pom pom into a sheep or a rabbit?', and 'Sally, it's your turn to pick what game we play before we go home' rather than them planning full evenings. We've found lots of girls don't remember what we've done on the way out, so she may be ticking off things to earn badges without you (or even her) being aware.

If you want to speak to the leaders about the programme, please try and keep it positive, and do remember that all leaders are volunteers. If you'd like something to happen, offer help to facilitate it, or to try and find someone who could. (eg you could offer to contact the local hospitals or university medicine students if you'd like your daughter to learn some first aid, and could send a message to the leader of something along the lines of;
'Hi Brown Owl, I've been speaking to some friends who have daughters in Brownies in other areas of the country. They've been doing first aid this term, which I think would be great for our Brownies to learn. I would love to offer to coordinate this, and could email the local hospitals to try and find someone who'd be able to run a few sessions! Does that sounds ok? If so, please could you let me know whether any certain dates would work, and how many Brownies you have. Thanks XXXXX (YYYY's parent')

KnickerlessParsons · 24/03/2023 19:16

TM80 · 09/02/2023 18:22

@456pickupsticks The activities sounds well planned and definitely a wide variety, I like the balance of the life skills and leisure ones. My daughter's guide group tends to play games every week, I was hoping they would be learning basic sewing, knitting, etc.

Guiding has moved on from the 1950s! 🙄

TM80 · 25/03/2023 23:04

@KnickerlessParsons Yes, thank you for pointing that out, however guides can actually earn a craftivism badge, which skills like sewing/knitting etc falls under crafts 😉

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KnickerlessParsons · 26/03/2023 00:32

TM80 · 25/03/2023 23:04

@KnickerlessParsons Yes, thank you for pointing that out, however guides can actually earn a craftivism badge, which skills like sewing/knitting etc falls under crafts 😉

But they don't do it all the time! I volunteer with Guiding btw.

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