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Poolside Chat: parents of competitive swimmers

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2ducksandI · 16/01/2022 20:59

Seems I managed to fill the other thread with talk of taking fridges to away galas! And I didnt even mean a fridge I meant an electric cool box Grin So I've started another thread. Hope you all find it.

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Hellocatshome · 23/01/2022 19:23

@turkeyboots was it in the North East? If it was I was at that one as a volunteer and I do find the galas without spectators actually feel calmer and the swimmers seem less anxious.

Hellocatshome · 23/01/2022 19:25

@Helenjohanna if he got the times without great starts then he is a good strong swimmer and the starts will come.

Helenjohanna · 23/01/2022 20:21

He's in relay races, for which they didn't need good times to be entered. He's only been timed once, and that was early on in his competitive swimming classes, and he was slow. He's faster now, but still noticeably slower than most of the others participating. I'm honestly not too bothered about that though. I'm just chuffed that he's been given this opportunity.

TheAbbotOfUnreason · 23/01/2022 21:09

You often find swimmers perform better in relays than in individual events - they pull out all the stops.

Hellocatshome · 23/01/2022 21:10

@Helenjohanna ah relays they are the most fun part of swimming according to DS he will love it.

turkeyboots · 23/01/2022 21:16

@Hellocatshome not the NE, I'm in Ireland. Glad you observed the same! I was team manager for a few sessions and it was lovely, but the cold wet parents staring in the windows will have disagreed!

Relays are fun and a nice way to experience a higher level event for the first time, good luck to little Helenjohanna!

Teateaandmoretea · 24/01/2022 08:57

We survived the first counties weekend. Now a breath of one and back on it. Daughter did well in relay, was a bit meh about her 100 free swim - but she just about swam a PB v short course (as in time was 0.1 faster than short course PB) and it was her first long course time ever. I reckon that’s pretty good but she held back a bit for sure, which she has a tendency to do.

Teateaandmoretea · 24/01/2022 08:59

Break not breath ……

Eccle80 · 24/01/2022 11:06

Well done on surviving! Sounds like she did really well, long course is meant to be slower so beating her short course pb is great.

TheAbbotOfUnreason · 24/01/2022 13:41

@Teateaandmoretea

LC times will be slower than SC times as you don’t get the advantage of the turns.

You can convert between LC and SC times here

Teateaandmoretea · 24/01/2022 19:18

Yes, thanks I converted it on the club website and she was happier with the SC equivalent.

The issue is that she’s a bit overly competitive/ ambitious and she’s annoyed it’s 1.4 seconds/ 2% off the regional time. I don’t think she’d enjoy the regionals anyway as she’s finding the counties stressful enough (she wants to qualify I think rather than swim in it 😂😂🤦🏻‍♀️) - and tbf she’s unlikely to swim it anyway she’s got 1 more chance. Thankfully after a couple of more fun galas including an utterly daft juniors meet that she just sneaks into on age.

Nordicwannabe · 26/01/2022 20:01

Sorry, this is a really basic question, but not sure where else to ask! DD (9) is now swimming 3 consecutive days a week. What do I do about hair-washing?! Hair gets greasy if you wash it too often, and once a week seems about right for her age - but presumably it's bad for hair not to wash chlorine out? She has long hair (and hates washing it! Grin )

Madcats · 26/01/2022 21:11

Welcome Nordic
Let's start with the basics. Does DD have access to a changing room at swim club? I am beginning to wonder if our council-run place is batshit.

My teen comes home "unwashed". Her hair is like straw.

coachmylife · 26/01/2022 21:24

I’m wondering if DS (14) is old enough to take himself to and fro on his own… is a pig of a journey, and no fun to hang around waiting all day! Is a 3 hop journey so I think one of us will go but ugh. I think I get the prize for least supportive mum!

Nordicwannabe · 27/01/2022 09:20

Thank you Madcats Smile

They have showers poolside, but apparently no time to use them before they have to be out. (they have to change quickly in the changing rooms before being walked to school by a teacher). On the middle day, I think it should be possible since it's in the evening and I collect her - there is another session after her, but hopefully they would allow a quick shower (they used to pre-covid, so hopefully possible again now)

Helenjohanna · 27/01/2022 09:35

@Teateaandmoretea

We survived the first counties weekend. Now a breath of one and back on it. Daughter did well in relay, was a bit meh about her 100 free swim - but she just about swam a PB v short course (as in time was 0.1 faster than short course PB) and it was her first long course time ever. I reckon that’s pretty good but she held back a bit for sure, which she has a tendency to do.
This is lovely to read! It sounds like she did really well. I hope one day I'm posting that DS got a good time!

Thank you for the other comments. I'm glad he's doing what is considered to be a fun race! I asked the secretary what time I need to be there on the day I'm volunteering and she said 8.30, but DS isn't due until 11.40! So I said I'm not sure how I'd manage, as his dad doesn't drive. She's seeing if someone else can help. I know I'm messing her around, but I didn't foresee this problem! Although the secretary has been lovely, I still feel as though we're all expected to know what we're doing but we newbies are clueless. DS's dad and I are planning to try to find a spot where we can observe discreetly through the window! We're sad that we can't spectate.

With the hair washing, can she rinse with water only? I think that's what I'd do. I only rinse DS's trunks and robe a lot of the time, and wash with detergent every now and then.

TheAbbotOfUnreason · 27/01/2022 10:10

Can your DS sit with the rest of the team in the morning whilst you’re on duty? He might enjoy the atmosphere?

Helenjohanna · 27/01/2022 11:08

It said in the information we received that they're not to be there earlier than the stated time. They're being really strict!

itsgettingweird · 27/01/2022 11:14

Yay !!! I've found the new thread. I fell off the old one!

In news - ds received his classification October. He's S9/SB8/SM9.

Straight into his first major meet in December at the Nationals in wales and won 2 medals! Now on a talent programme.

He also moved clubs when we returned after the first lockdown. His didn't have many hours (small friendly club) and couldn't get many at all when we returned. He looked into the club in our town and moved. The coach is brilliant.

The coach set up a dual reg programme for performance swimmers with the city club.

The due to various reasons it's been combined now so all the performance swimmer train together in the city. Much better pool times and pools and travel is actually easier!

Back to training tonight having had to miss it due to me isolating with covid 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Counties next weekend!

itsgettingweird · 27/01/2022 11:19

@Nordicwannabe

Sorry, this is a really basic question, but not sure where else to ask! DD (9) is now swimming 3 consecutive days a week. What do I do about hair-washing?! Hair gets greasy if you wash it too often, and once a week seems about right for her age - but presumably it's bad for hair not to wash chlorine out? She has long hair (and hates washing it! Grin )
Experiment with hats! Some fit so well their hair stays dry.

Although the teen girls in ds squad all seem to remove them and dunk under at the end of training.

I'm thinking why? It's 7am. Surely right now dry hair is better 🤣

Helenjohanna · 27/01/2022 12:05

@itsgettingweird

Yay !!! I've found the new thread. I fell off the old one!

In news - ds received his classification October. He's S9/SB8/SM9.

Straight into his first major meet in December at the Nationals in wales and won 2 medals! Now on a talent programme.

He also moved clubs when we returned after the first lockdown. His didn't have many hours (small friendly club) and couldn't get many at all when we returned. He looked into the club in our town and moved. The coach is brilliant.

The coach set up a dual reg programme for performance swimmers with the city club.

The due to various reasons it's been combined now so all the performance swimmer train together in the city. Much better pool times and pools and travel is actually easier!

Back to training tonight having had to miss it due to me isolating with covid 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Counties next weekend!

Please would you explain a bit more because all of this sounds immensely exciting and I'd love to understand it better.

What are "S9" etc? And what is a talent programme and how does a child end up in one?

Well done to your DS! Even though I don't understand the post, he's clearly done really well!

itsgettingweird · 27/01/2022 12:43

Swimmers with a disability (para swimmers) have classification based on their level of impairment.

S1-10 is physical impairment. S1 being most severe (usually no arms or legs) to S10. S10 swimmers usually miss a hand, have restrictions in 1 hip joint.

S11-13 are visually impaired.

S14 is intellectual impairment.

You apply for classification through British swimming and once you've completed a mound of paperwork and waited in a long queue you are assessed. For physical disability You score out of 5 for movements (tests depend on your type of disability). Each set of tests give a max of 300 points. If you lose more than 15 during movement tests you are tested in water.

If when ended your score less than 285 you have a classification.
An S10 is 266-285. S 9 246-265 (iirc!)

Visual and intellectual impairments are tested differently (for obvious reasons!)

Swim england (and I assume wales and Scotland) will have their own talent programmes and structure for these. Some counties will have their own as well.

They invite swimmers from different age groups to be part of a programme based on their times and rankings and sometimes performance if they show potential. Some will get invited to the next phase. Some will get invited the following year. Some may be invited one year and then progress slow but pick and and be invited again.

By the older age groups it's the swimmers you see winning multiple medals at nationals and usually in more than 1 stroke.

itsgettingweird · 27/01/2022 12:46

The talent programmes basically work with you and your home coach as well as offer some training camps with other talent swimmers.

Hellocatshome · 27/01/2022 12:49

DS is at a counties talent camp (they call it camp but its only one day) this weekend. His times have really dropped due to having long covid) since he was selected so I hope they dont look at him like why the hell is this kid here!

Helenjohanna · 27/01/2022 12:55

Thank you for taking the time to type all that, itsgettingweird. That's interesting. I had no idea that so much thought went into it.

And thanks for the information on the talent programmes. Presumably children get noticed if they start winning a lot? Or do they get scouted based on how well they swim?

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