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Football Clubs - U8

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Mumdiva99 · 18/10/2019 20:11

Does anyone have any experience of clubs streaming kids at U8 - so splitting existing teams into better player and less good player. Is this the norm? Is it good for the kids in reality? My son is in a lovely team with fab kids and amazing coaches and the Club want to start a new team - all great - but they then want to the split all the kids into ability groups. So my son may end up in effectively a different team. I like his team and all the parents. I'm being told this is FA recommendations.....is this right?

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user1471539385 · 19/10/2019 15:36

Normal in my experience, where numbers within the age group permit. Clubs seem to have elite and foundation groups, but then the foundation group will play against other foundation groups where they stand a chance. It means everyone gets a decent amount of match time too. There is movement between the groups, so nothing is set in stone.

Mumdiva99 · 19/10/2019 16:14

Thanks @user1471539385.

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MillieMoodle · 19/10/2019 16:24

This is definitely not FA recommendations, and I am very involved in my local grassroots club. We have 15 junior teams, and several age groups with 2 teams but we don't split by ability. It's not competitive until U12, so although the leagues are split into divisions, this is only to ensure the teams are playing against teams of a similar ability and don't get hammered every week. They muddle them up at October half term and Christmas. Results cannot be published other than for cup games. The focus is on development and fun.

Some clubs do split by ability and I can kind of understand it as it's hard to develop players if they are very mixed ability within one team. However, more often than not in my experience, splitting by ability is down to coaches' egos. They're doing it because they want to win games, and often this is at the expense of developing their players properly.

The danger with splitting by ability is that the ones who are in the "weaker" team will eventually get fed up as they will get hammered every week, and they'll walk away from football.

Football is about so much more than winning. The development, the social aspect, learning to be a team player, building confidence and learning how to win and lose graciously are all things we focus on with our players.

DH runs an U9 team and in his view, if they're all still playing football by the time they're U16, he'll have done a good job.

Also, if they are split by ability they are not under any circumstances allowed to name the teams anything which would indicate that there is a difference in ability. So they can't be called, for example, Anywhere Rovers U8 Gold & U8 Silver, nor can they be team A and B or team 1 and 2.

LoveBlackpool · 19/10/2019 19:48

They did it at my son's club at aged 6! Absolutely crazy and was simply picking the oldest ones in the year or the children of the most pushy parents! none of them will be professionals I suspect, why not let them enjoy the game with their friends. They are 6 and 7 years old!

Mumdiva99 · 19/10/2019 21:26

This is exactly why I didn't want my kids doing football. I"d heard horror stories about damaging kids self esteem and I really think this will knock some for 6. No matter how it is couched they are basically being told they aren't good enough to play with their friends anymore and they have to move to new coaches who they don't know...but the better players can stay where they are. They're being punished for not being better.... It's supposed to be fun.

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MillieMoodle · 20/10/2019 08:31

@Mumdiva99 are there any clubs that don't split team on ability that you could find locally? If you're on FB, many areas have junior football sites. Search for 'county name' junior football and ask on there?

Unfortunately there are too many teams run purely for coaches' egos and not for the fun and development of the children who want to play.

Mumdiva99 · 20/10/2019 23:27

I'm sure there are as there are loads of clubs around. We will stay for now....and possibly till May if only I've spent quite a lot on the annual fee and can't afford to pay that again. Also my son loves his team mates and his coaches. If we get split and he ends up with new team mates and different coaches then maybe I would look at the team closest to our house (benefit then is practice and home matches will be walking distance). They are currently advertising for players but may not be in May.

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Mumdiva99 · 09/12/2019 14:44

So the split has happened and only my son and one other boy are being moved across to the other team. My son is devastated - feels like a failure. He knows no one in the other team nor the coach. (He will know the one team mate of course.)

He's now learnt a really good lesson about sports teams - that loyalty, hard work and effort count for nothing. They will drop you the second someone better comes along. Great lesson for a boy of 7!!

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WidowTwonky · 18/12/2019 22:43

Oh that’s shocking at that age. It’s grassroots football not an elite team. Ridiculous

bombaychef · 26/12/2019 23:36

Move clubs. Choose a non selective community grassroots club that gives equal respect and playing time to all kids, I run a huge club and selection at age 6 is pretty meaningless as kids development is not linear and depends on a lot of things. FA guidelines are very clear on engagement, inclusion and respect. All junior football is developmental until high school.
The club has shown no respect for your child so don't feel any loyalty back. Ask for refund of subs paid up front

cheshirecat777 · 10/03/2020 17:41

Sorry to hear your son is being placed apart from his friends and that he is upset

think its all a bit hit and miss - we have 2 local clubs one does stream and one doesn't.

cheshirecat777 · 10/03/2020 17:48

Also to say my DS joined the club that streamed in end of YR1 he was automatically. put in the top team he deserved to be in the top team 100% but it haas not been a good experience far too competitive horrible over competitive manager who has his fabourites.

we are moving son end of season. Tbh you may find that being in the middle team may have some advantages as its more fun based. I think sometimes those involved in A teams coaches parents and the children can be v overly competitive and you may be better out of it. Especially if your DS is perhaps not at this point as skilful as it may place unnecessary pressure on him that he may find hard to deal with.

Underhiseye2 · 13/03/2020 20:53

In our experience the youth teams are generally run by coach egos rather than in the spirit of developing everyone.

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