Any swim teachers about

[Gileswithachainsaw]

Dd has been having swimming lessons for a few months now.

She can swim 15-20 metres front and back. retrieve objects off the floor, (shallow end mind) surface dive, enter and exit water safely. jump in. kick with floats front and back etc

Just wondering how much they need to he able to do per stage and when do you become concerned about lack.of progression.

She's currently stage three but I feel I'm .throwing money away for her to . throw a ball about or play what's the time Mr wolf.

She doesn't actually appear to be learning how to improve her strokes or even actually swim .She's not much better than when she started

Anyone?

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Not a swim teacher, but a 'swim mum'. Has your child done any ASAbadges? If so, which ones? There often is a slow down, especially before they move into the deep water as the teacher needs to be certain they will be safe.

Thanks for your reply, I'd given up and started a thread in chat

she's only done one badge (stage 2) which they gave her at the end of her first lesson as she had been wrongly grouped.

She's still stuck on stage three

perhaps chat to teacher- what skills do they need to develop further? What can you do to help in family swim times? It may be something really specific that you can help with- for DS it was putting his face in the water. We had to practise at home in the bath and shower.
He was stuck at a similar stage for about 7 months, then got going again. He's zoomed through some stages, needed much longer at others. It hasn't hurt- we spent all weekend at a swim meet! I was beginning to wish he'd never taken it up!

Yes I plan to speak to her now. She's only just taken over so was trying to give her some time to assess but Dds getting really bored and I have to be honest, until she took over half the time time no one was even watching as she's usually on the end so by time it's her turn teacher was usually walking over to go get the floats or whatever for the next bit.

I do feel she's been ignored to some extent.

and now she's just bored

Bored is never good. Definitely worth having a chat. Good luck!

I've binned two swim schools for being completely shite.
Been happy with two, delighted with current one.
My dd had private one on one to stage 3 then group onwards.
She took about 5 months to get through stage 3, much less for stage 4 which has more tasks.

DS had one to one for same number of lessons and got to stage 2. He's going slower, he doesn't have the same stroke skills. And doesn't concentrate as much.

Maybe look around for diff swim schools. But I think from watching lots of lessons, kids either look good and streamlined and good swimmers or they are thrashy and functional

why were they shite?

I've no idea what's the norm as this is first set for dd.

is there a shit checklist ? I'd like to see of what I think. is a problem actually is

ASA Level 3

This link shows what is required to pass level 3. It is very usual for children to stall for a while on one level, often this is level 4 though.

How old is your DD?

Poor teaching, no demonstration of strokes in and out of water, keeping lessons upbeat and changing constantly. Giving Max time to each child in 30 mins. Lots of floats, noodles, balls. Different ways of teaching same things. Making kids laugh and confident.

Shite school had ten kids per stage and 6 stages in the pool which was about 10m wide by 20m long. Atrocious. And it was more expensive than the good ones.

Our council lessons are the other shite ones. Stage 3 is in baby pool and all kids can touch bottom so they simply don't progress as fast.

Two good ones were in private school pools at weekends and were CHEAPER! and had less kids per class.

Have a hunt about.

Oh, and while your daughter shouldn't be bored, playing games (rather than formal swimming) is encouraged as part of the ASA scheme to develop water confidence.

If the group she is in has lots of children, then it is inevitable that there will be some waiting around for the teacher. The teacher should be alternating order though so she is not always last. The only answer to this is to find a swimming lesson with fewer children in it.

6 per class where I am now stage 3 up.
Stage 1&2 has 8 children but TWO teacher in pool.
It's £55 for 10 week blocks.

She is 8. She could do all if those bar 5 as they haven't covered that yet so can't say. alot if that she could do before she started.

All I've seen so far is lots of kicking with floats and on armed strokes while holding float.

that and retrieving objects from floor.

I'll have to.ask her about the questions but she can swim more than the 10 meteres.

yy to.lots of stages at once. Full 25 m pool but stage 3 4 and a 1/1 share a 5 m wide strip of the pool