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Cycling Thread - pleasure peddlers to serious cyclists sign in here!

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Thistledew · 13/08/2011 16:41

Hi All

I thought I would start a cycling thread. It would be great if we could make it all inclusive, so whether you currently just enjoy bike rides but are interested in taking it further, or already train seriously, please post what you are up to and what your aims are. By sharing knowledge and experiences, hopefully we can spur each other on.

If you want to, please post a quick biog of how long you have been cycling, how much you currently cycle, and what your goals are.

And for those who wish to engage in a bit of bike porn, please feel free to post what sort of bike you ride!

Happy peddling!

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DuchessOfAvon · 06/09/2012 14:14

We are a cycling family but my cycling has been restricted of late to hauling small children around in a variety of extras - from bike seats to trailers. This summer both DD's finally took to pedals so we are at last able to cycle independently as a family.

Up til now I have been running (not well or far)to keep fit but my knees are really shot so I think now is the time to turn to the bike. I am trying to persuade my DH to get me a new bike under his CTW scheme as mine is a heavy brute and there is no way I can realistically cycle more than 20 miles in comfort on it.

So - assuming a new bike does materialise, I have been toying with targeting a sportive next year and trying to take it all a bit more seriously. Oddly - I too have been considering the Tricross as an option. I am even considering SPDs.

Does any one have an active Breeze ride set-up in their area?

VivaLeBeaver · 06/09/2012 14:29

Santa, you could try a brooks saddle, they're meant to be the best for comfort. Are you wearing padded cycling shorts? Though perhaps a bike fit would be good as I don't think you're meant to get a sore fanny at all. Have you tried experimenting with tilting the saddle slightly? Not sure whether you need to tilt it back or forwards?

I'm sure any bike fitter would be sympathetic and professional.

Hi duchess, I've toyed with the idea of a triathlon but I'm crap at swimming so maybe not!

Thistledew · 06/09/2012 16:44

Hi to Movingforward, Santa and Duchess!

Movingforward - in answer to your question as to whether cycling slowly is any good- it really depends what your goals are. If you are just wanting to be a bit more active in your life, and to enjoy something that will take you out into the fresh air, then pootling along on your bike is great and will do lots to lift your mood etc. If you would like to extend the length of time that you cycle for, then just build up the distance slowly.

If, on the other hand, you want to cycle for fitness and to lose weight then you will need to do a little more than cycle slowly. Cycling along not using much effort and not exerting yourself is equivalent to going out for a walk. It is great for being more active, but will not increase your fitness or do much for calorie burning.

To achieve these things you need to be exercising in a way that stresses your heart and lungs: so exercise that causes your heart rate to raise significantly and for you to breath hard for a sustained period. If you ain't coming back sweaty, you ain't working hard enough!

There are some on-line calculators such as this one here which will give you a rough idea of how many calories you will burn according to the speed you go at and your weight. It is only a very rough guide, and is not nearly as accurate as working it out from your heart rate. For example, the chart counts cycling at 14-15 mph as 'vigorous' and 16-19 as 'very fast-racing', which is great for someone starting out at cycling, but for someone who is more experienced and fitter, it is rather slow. 18 months ago I would have agreed with those figures, but now for me 19-21 mph is 'vigorous' and 22mph+ is fast. Racing is more like 25-27mph!

You don't have to get technical to make improvements. As a rule of thumb, you will be raising your heart rate to a level where you are working hard enough if you are having to breath hard, but without feeling you are gasping for air. Some simple tips to design your own workout can be to use google maps or similar to measure out a loop, or there-and-back ride, and time yourself over the distance. Keep cycling it a couple of times a week, each time challenging yourself to push quite hard, and then after two week or a month, time yourself again and see if your are doing it any quicker. Or you might want to select a couple of points along your route, and say to yourself, ok, from this signpost to that house I am going to ride as hard as I can. Gradually, as you find it easier, you can make the distance longer. If your route has any hills in it, push yourself to get up that hill as quickly as possible.

One thing that I love about cycling is that I find that I work hard without really thinking about it. I have to confess that on my commute into work, I like to play Silly Commuter Racing, and because I am so focussed on chasing down and claiming a good scalp, I tend not to notice that I have been exerting myself to the max for the past 500m.

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Thistledew · 06/09/2012 16:44

And remember, if you are training properly, cycling never gets easier - you just go faster!

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Thistledew · 06/09/2012 16:52

Hi Santa - What sort of saddle do you have? I googled the make of bike you say you have and the Merida website says that it comes with a Selle Italia saddle. If this is what you have then I don't blame you for finding it really uncomfortable. I rode a bike with a Selle Italia saddle for about 45 mins a couple of months ago and found it to be hugely uncomfortable - as you say on the lady bits, not on your arse. Both my bikes (eek! still excited to say that!) have Specialized seats on, which have cut-out sections in the middle, and I find them really comfortable. You don't necessarily need a whole bike fit, but it would be a good idea to try out some different saddles. Some bike shops have ones that they will loan out so you can take it for a trial run before you buy, or the alternative is to buy one from e-bay, give it a go, and if it is not comfortable, stick it back on for sale and buy another.

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Thistledew · 06/09/2012 16:53

Hi Duchess - come and join our Tricross quiche!

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evilgiraffe · 06/09/2012 17:08

Silly commuter racing is wicked fun. The only problem is I rank as a 2, on account of being dressed in lycra and riding a road bike with shaved legs. This means I am technically higher in the food chain than my DH, which makes NO SENSE.

Anyway, I've been out on my bike three times this week so far, about 7-8 miles each time. My bike is wicked :)

Also, DH and I have signed up for the RideLondon 100 mile ballot. He doubts we'll get in on account of having no charity affiliation, but you never know...

Thistledew · 06/09/2012 17:34

OK - getting overdue now, but a review of my lovely, shiny new Specialized Tarmac.

It is a gorgeous bike. Ridiculously light - I haven't weighed it but I can hold it out at arms length using just one hand! It is a 54cm frame, which is just right for me and seems to put me in a good position where I can't lock my arms out without thinking about it. It feels quite a bit more aggressive in the riding position than my Tricross, although I only have the handlebars about 3 inches below the seat at the moment, and I could drop it lower if I wanted.

It has Shimano Ultegra components, and I have to say that they are significantly better than the Tiagra components I have on my Tricross. The gears shift really quickly and smoothly to the extent that it is not always noticeable that they have moved sometimes. I am also having to remember not to grab at the brakes, as they are a lot sharper than on the Tricross!

It has a 10 speed 11-25 cassette and a 53-39 Chainset, which I was a bit worried would be too aggressive, but last weekend DP and I went out for a ride which included Box Hill, and I got up that with gears to spare, spinning quite comfortably. How I will fare on steeper hills such as Leith Hill and Crocknorth remains to be seen!

I did decide to go for the Speedplay pedals, and am pleased I did. They were a complete pain in the arse to set up though, and it took me and DP about an hour to get them working. They were hugely stiff, and I could not get them to clip in at all to start with. Finally, with a bit of brute strength I got them clipped in, and then just spent 10 mins clipping in out and wiggling my foot around to loosen them. They are still a bit stiff to clip in, and require a bit of foot wiggling at the same time as applying pressure, but they are loosening up quite quickly, and fortunately are much easier to unclip, than to clip in.

Overall, the bike is fabulous to ride. It is so much more responsive than the Tricross, in that when I push down on the pedals, the first thing I feel is the bike shooting forwards, rather than my quads protesting. This is down to both the lightness of the bike and to its rigidity, although this is something I also feel in a negative way. It is a lot less comfortable than the Tricross. I have jarred my wrists quite painfully from hitting bumps in the road that the Tricross would just soak up. Coming down a steep hill on a very poor road surface last weekend the bike was vibrating so much that my arms almost felt numb by the time I got to the bottom.

I feel I still have a long way to go to get used to the bike, and have noticed that I ride my Tricross a lot more aggressively, because I am so used to how it handles. It is going to be fun finding out how hard I can push myself and the bike. I am also really pleased that I am still finding the Tricross to be really enjoyable to ride. My Tricross is now my commuting bike (although it may come back out as the training bike in the winter) and I am not at all wishing that I was on the Tarmac for commuting. The Tricross is so much more comfortable and stable, but yet still feels agile even with my panniers fully loaded. I know I am lucky to be able to have two bikes and to get the best out of all my cycling. Smile

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VivaLeBeaver · 06/09/2012 17:36

Had a good if rather short blast on the Tricross this afternoon. I was expecting to find another road to turn down which according to the map was there but in reality was a footpath, so only did 6 miles rather than 9.

I guess I could have extended it but it was really windy and I was knackered.

Was struggling to maintain 11mph into the headwind. Though on the home stretch with the wind behind I went over 20mph.

Thistledew · 06/09/2012 17:37

evilgiraffe - I think that the FCN weighting is unfair too, on account of the shaved-leg weighting. I usually start myself of as a 4, along with the hairy-legged men, or allow myself a 3 (2 for shaved legs, but +1 for being female). With my panniers on I am then a 4 or a 5, which allows for quite a few good scalpings Wink.

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Thistledew · 06/09/2012 17:40

Head winds are the thing that I like least after hills. So dispiriting when you find yourself going slowly for no apparent reason. It is worse in the winter time when there are no leaves on the trees to show that you are riding into a wind and you suddenly feel like you are cycling through glue. Did you go down onto the drops when you were going into the wind Viva? How is the comfort factor when you are on them?

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VivaLeBeaver · 06/09/2012 17:45

Yes went down onto the drops and that helped with the headwind. Came back on the drops as well when I decided to try and pick some speed up. Quite comfy though I am finding I need to keep changing position. Hoods, flats, drops. Just because of my hands really.
My backs ok with it all which was my main concern.

Glad you like your new bike Thistle, it sounds really nice!

VivaLeBeaver · 08/09/2012 00:04

I did ten miles today in 50minutes so that's 12mph average which I'm happy with. Especially as nearly two miles were on a bridle way.

I have to say though, the brakes are awful compared to my mtb. Can't stop suddenly or even close to suddenly. Just come to a gradual stop. Is this normal. It'll be worse when I'm doing loaded touring. Not sure if they're not set up well or I need to upgrade.

If I upgrade what do I have instead?

VivaLeBeaver · 08/09/2012 00:05

Upgrade brakes, ot the whole bike btw!

Piffpaffpoff · 08/09/2012 13:18

Viva I've done a fairly slow 36 miles this morning and yes the brakes are a bit shocking if you are used to disc brakes. And my front one is very juddery - my bike shop does a free 'check-up' service at 6 weeks so I'll be mentioning that to them.

FredFredGeorge · 08/09/2012 17:46

You shouldn't need to upgrade your brakes, they don't sound like they're set up right. There should be more than enough stopping power with those brakes for anyone.

FredFredGeorge · 08/09/2012 18:03

Thistledew I'm an 8 in the FCN number, 'cos I rarely bother shaving my face, never my legs, commute on a tourer with panniers etc. Pass an awful lot of people though...

I'm pretty strong up Crocknorth (under 2 1/2 minutes all out), but I often use my 36x28 to get up there, with 39x25 I'd struggle a lot in the Surrey Hills. 53x39 is TT bike only, every where else I go compact - So I think you might want to change

VivaLeBeaver · 08/09/2012 19:24

My front brake isn't juddery but when I did a test ride on a tricross it was, badly so. Apparently it's a known problem with tricrosses.

36 miles, I'm very impressed!

poachedeggs · 08/09/2012 19:34

Just clocking in to say hi (I'm here early in this thread I think!) to say I've signed up for a 26k women only cross country race. What's the worst that could happen?! And they have cake stations on the day. Grin

SummerLightning · 09/09/2012 08:15

Hello. I was also here early in this thread but don't think I ever introduced myself properly! Have spent most of the year road biking due to crap weather but have bought a new, well second hand, mountain bike, and am now totally trying to squeeze in as much mountain biking as I can get away with! Totally addicted again.
Am also doing a sprint triathlon in oct. must get on the road bike!!

Ah damn gotta go back later I hope.

SummerLightning · 09/09/2012 09:19

Poached when and where is your race?

VivaLeBeaver · 09/09/2012 19:03

Gosh, so many people doing triathlons, races, etc. I'm very impressed.

Went out biking with dh and dd today so a bit slower but did 8 miles. Went in a bike shop we passed and not sure what happened but I've come out with a pair of SPD shoes. Bloke in the shop was lovely, he put the cleats in my shoes and he changed the tension in the pedal down for me.

But I don't seem to be able to clip in. Blush

I was worried about getting out quick enough, never thought this would be a problem. After 30 attempts I managed to get one foot clipped in and gave up with the other. Bloke said to have toes down, clip the front of the cleat in first and then stamp down. I can't tell if the front part of my cleat is anywhere near where it should be. Is it just practice?

poachedeggs · 09/09/2012 20:35

SummerLightning this is the event I've signed up to

I must be mad. I'm overweight, not very fit (cycle or lumber run for 30-60 minutes a couple of times a week at best!) and my bike's elderly. But they have CAKE! Grin

Piffpaffpoff · 09/09/2012 21:29

Poached oooh, I nearly signed up for that, it's in my favourite place for biking AND cake! But I'm doing the Aviemore 10k three weeks later and can't afford two lots of entry fees and travel costs. I'll be very interested to hear how you get on, I might give it a go next year if it is a success.

Inshriach is ace for mountain biking. I really enjoy an early morning run along the bothy track from Rothiemurchus into Inshriach, hitting the Potting Shed for some cake before a leisurely spin back along the road to Aviemore. We're up that way for a fortnight in Oct, can't wait!

poachedeggs · 09/09/2012 21:43

It's not just any cake either. I'm reliably informed that it will be Mountain Cafe cake.

If nothing else gets me through, it'll be the prospect of that!

Why not come and just stay for the three weeks ...? Wink