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Westministers : Saving the Union

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RedToothBrush · 16/02/2021 23:26

Apparently we need a tunnel. Just like we needed the £53 million failed Garden Bridge.

Nice little earner for anyone involved.

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JustAnotherPoster00 · 20/02/2021 22:18

all we can do is let them self destruct and then start picking up the pieces.

Or more likely tinker around the edges ignoring the overwhelming evidence that this entire system is broken and this tinkering that all the centrists want serves no-one except those currently benefiting from it, no matter what comes out of their mouth

prettybird · 20/02/2021 22:27

...or escape from the clusterfuck that is FUKD entirely Wink

JustAnotherPoster00 · 20/02/2021 22:43

@prettybird

...or escape from the clusterfuck that is FUKD entirely Wink
I wish, Ill forever be stuck in this shithole country watching rights that have been hard fought for be eroded away, benefits are already at substandard levels and I dont doubt as we see the Brexit belts start tightening a new offensive on the poor and disabled will start, after all we bailed out the banks while I can barely keep any money in my account because of that thing of wanting to be alive although this shade of government have been eroding that very effectively since 2010

Sorry rant over

prettybird · 20/02/2021 22:50

JustAnotherPoster00 - I can fully empathise with your rant. Not everyone has the possibility of the hope of an escape (note the double caveat Sad) from the clusterfuck Sad

The only faint ray of sunshine that I can offer is that if some of us do manage to escape and demonstrate that there is a different - and more equitable and successful - way, maybe the electors in England will finally see the light Confused

Peregrina · 20/02/2021 23:01

Staff in the supermarket are now admitting that certain items are out of stock because of Brexit. It's not being put down to Covid - not like last year when there was a run on items like loo rolls and flour, partly because of the need to switch from packaging for commercial sales to domestic.

At least those Labour MPs who refused to vote for Johnson's deal can now hold their heads high.

TheABC · 20/02/2021 23:04

I suspect the majority of the country is bored with Brexit. Either they are satisfied with the result, can't see any impact (yet) on their living standards or they just don't care. Not everyone considered the vote that important; some voted Leave as a protest against Cameron's Government.

Until Covid-19 has been dealt with, that will remain the case.

mrslaughan · 21/02/2021 10:25

Brexit supporting vs remain supporting businesses

www.eumemes.eu/brexit-boycott-lists.html

DGRossetti · 21/02/2021 10:56

[quote mrslaughan]Brexit supporting vs remain supporting businesses

www.eumemes.eu/brexit-boycott-lists.html[/quote]
I have a vague memory that posting a list like that could be considered an act of terrorism ... along the lines of ...

... any activity intended to cause economic, political or social disruption to advance a political agenda...

Remember that girl that was arrested for just reading out names at the Cenotaph ?

KonTikki · 21/02/2021 11:19

Covid 19
The gift that just keeps on giving
for Brexiteers.

Newrumpus · 21/02/2021 13:55

@KonTikki

Covid 19 The gift that just keeps on giving for Brexiteers.
Bad taste
prettybird · 21/02/2021 14:32

Not bad form but a reflection of reality Sad

Covid-19 will (indeed, already is) be used as an excuse for many of the challenges that will be encountered that are actually a result of Brexit Sad

DGRossetti · 21/02/2021 14:39

I see Hancock has deployed "the end justifies the means" excuse for his lawbreaking.

Must remember that one next I break the law.

Peregrina · 21/02/2021 15:40

Covid 19 - or more precisely the vaccine roll out is the one thing that Johnson's Government has done well (courtesy of the NHS) which they will milk for all its worth. Not bad taste at all but an inconvenient truth for those who slavishly support the Johnson Government.

HoneysuckIejasmine · 21/02/2021 15:42

The Covid app, the King's London one, is now suggesting cases are ticking upwards again. Depressing. They are usually a few weeks ahead of ONS data

DGRossetti · 21/02/2021 16:05

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Westministers : Saving the Union
ListeningQuietly · 21/02/2021 16:12

Supermarket supplies : hardly any biscuits in stock yesterday.
Yellow peppers are meh
but bourbons are an essential

DGRossetti · 21/02/2021 16:21

@ListeningQuietly

Supermarket supplies : hardly any biscuits in stock yesterday. Yellow peppers are meh but bourbons are an essential
Yesterday there were big gaps in the fresh meat section for a start. (Admittedly this is Sainsburys, whose idea of "butchers" is rather novel).

Also quite a lot of stuff missing in the freezer section. From the look of it ready meals. Also very low on frozen yorkies. (Which we have from convenience, but could make our own if needs be. Problem is when it's two people alone, a lot of stuff is just too wasteful).

Also empty shelves in the wine section (much more serious).

All of which seemed to mirror our local ASDA which I popped into on Thursday post-jab (we felt we deserved Cake).

RedToothBrush · 21/02/2021 17:31

Politics For All @PoliticsForAlI
Boris Johnson’s plan to build three tunnels under the Irish Sea connecting in an “underground roundabout” beneath the Isle of Man has been described as “batsh*t” by Johnson’s senior aides

Johnson does not seem to understand where the UK begins and ends. I'm not convinced the Isle of Man would allow the UK to burrow on territory. This land/sea does not belong to us...

Some other issues:
The Irish Sea is four times deeper than the Channel.
The rock under the Channel is soft chalk ... the geology under the Irish Sea is very hard igneous rock
There are dangerous pockets of gas under the Irish Sea.
There are old WW2 munitions dumps in the Irish Sea.
The longest proposed tunnel from the Isle of Man roundabout to Liverpool is 3 times longer than any tunnel ever built to date.

Johnson has either been sniffing something, is unwell or has deployed the squirrel army.

Westministers : Saving the Union
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DGRossetti · 21/02/2021 17:37

@RedToothBrush

Politics For All *@PoliticsForAlI* Boris Johnson’s plan to build three tunnels under the Irish Sea connecting in an “underground roundabout” beneath the Isle of Man has been described as “batsh*t” by Johnson’s senior aides

Johnson does not seem to understand where the UK begins and ends. I'm not convinced the Isle of Man would allow the UK to burrow on territory. This land/sea does not belong to us...

Some other issues:
The Irish Sea is four times deeper than the Channel.
The rock under the Channel is soft chalk ... the geology under the Irish Sea is very hard igneous rock
There are dangerous pockets of gas under the Irish Sea.
There are old WW2 munitions dumps in the Irish Sea.
The longest proposed tunnel from the Isle of Man roundabout to Liverpool is 3 times longer than any tunnel ever built to date.

Johnson has either been sniffing something, is unwell or has deployed the squirrel army.

In the same way that scammers deliberately put speling & the grammer mistakes into emails to deter the educated and snare the vulnerable, I am convinced that bullshit like this is being used to filter out anyone with any intelligence from government circles.

(Thread convergence with the Site Stuff thread where a lack of Critical Thinking was lamented)

mathanxiety · 21/02/2021 19:19

A group of Eurosceptic City figures and politicians have created a new UK financial services lobby group in a bid to trumpet the sector’s success post-Brexit.

The body, launched yesterday [15 Feb 2021] is called the CityUnited project and it aims to “combat and negate the EU’s actions” by “promoting bold new initiatives to exploit the UK’s expertise in financial services”.

The City lobby group will be chaired by ex-chief executive of the London International Financial Futures and Options Exchange professor Daniel Hodson, with former chancellor Lord Norman Lamont and former MEP Lord Daniel Hannan on its board.

Grim reality is the mother of desperate measure, I see.

They should be embarrassed to announce the formation of this group so late in the day. It broadcasts to the world that Britain doesn't do planning.

...........
27 Jan 2021 - City of London chief: Brexit impact 'not at all catastrophic' as Square Mile will thrive without EU access.

[the] political leader of the Square Mile’s ruling body, insisted the City will thrive even if the European Union “irrationally” blocks access.

“It’s disappointing to lose business but it’s not at all catastrophic,” McGuinness said according to Reuters. “We are very confident in London’s basic strengths and that we will make up business elsewhere.”
In what parallel universe does 'not at all catastrophic' equal 'bullish' ?

tripuddle · 21/02/2021 19:27

I can assure you that those of us living on the Isle are a little bemused by this idea of building a tunnel under usHmm

mathanxiety · 21/02/2021 19:34

Green finance hopefuls Leeds and London will have to gird their loins for already established competition from Luxemburg, Switzerland, Lagos, Astana, Singapore, Casablanca, Johannesburg, Hong Kong...

www.bloombergquint.com/business/the-rise-of-the-green-financial-hubs-green-insight
Green bond graph. Note absence of UK.

ListeningQuietly · 21/02/2021 19:40

I bet Clav is gutted she did not post that map first Wink

Waiting for the penny to drop with the press is like watching the oil drop experiment.
When it dawns on people that these are not teething problems
they will be very angry with the people who did not warn them

ha bloody ha

mathanxiety · 21/02/2021 19:57

"Oven Ready"

Today (Thursday 11 February), the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster Michael Gove has announced a £20 million SME Brexit Support Fund to support small and medium sized businesses (SMEs) adjust to new customs, rules of origin, and VAT rules when trading with the EU.

SMEs who trade only with the EU and are therefore new to importing and exporting processes will be encouraged to apply for grants of up to £2,000 for each trader to pay for practical support including training and professional advice to ensure they can continue trading effectively with the EU.

It's all a little late in the day, isn't it?

It looks like a desperate scramble to plug massive holes in the HMS UK before it lists alarmingly to starboard and begins to sink. Unfortunately, cashflow being the beast that it is, I suspect many SMEs have already sunk without trace.

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