What Brexit consequences are you dealing with not covered in the press?

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We bought a (not inexpensive) wine fridge from Denmark online over a month ago, which we are told is stuck at the French border due to Brexit. Apparently, you can buy bacon from Denmark but not kitchen appliances.

This hasn't materialised yet because of Covid but, once Covid is over, the British decision to no longer accept ID cards but to require passports will hinder tourism big time.

In their short-sightedness and inflexibility, Brexiters forgot that most of the ca. 450m EU citizens have ID cards, with which they can travel freely within the EU and to some other countries, too (Turkey and a few others, I believe).

Passports for a family of 4 may easily cost between €350 - 500. A family who often travels to other continents will already have passports. A family who doesn't won't. So this means that, for them, there is now an extra cost of €350-500. No one knows how many, but certainly quite a few will be put off by this extra cost.

An adult passport lasts 10 years (a child's much less) but, for a family who never travels outside of Europe, that remains a significant, additional cost of travelling to the UK.

Trying to return a radio that arrived broken from Berlin - a Christmas present bought my my dh through amazon. Wrestling with tedious CR23 customs form - just to return a defective item. What a nightmare. Won’t be ordering anything else online from an Eu member state - It’s just not worth the hassle. Thanks brexiteers.

Last year I bought a video doorbell from Amazon UK. After 6 months it broke down. Amazon had no more stock so they told me to contact te manufacturer in the US, which replaced it, but it cost me more than half the amount I had originally paid between the cost of shipping to them and, most importantly, VAT: I had no idea that HMRC charges VAT on replacements under warranty.

That was from the US but now the same will apply to the whole of the EU. A small example, but one which highlights the difficulties of post-Brexit trade.

Where are all the people who said we'd hold all the card, easiest deal in history etc??????

Hopefully Denmark is better at fridges than bacon - I've chosen not to buy Danish Bacon for many years as I don't agree with sow crates and prefer UK Free Range Standards.

Given Denmark's colder climate they should be better at fridges but
are they really, they don't need fridges as much as warmer climates do. So they don't need as feisty a fridge as we do.

Shop around OP, at least for your Bacon.

Taking away my European citizenship and right to work freely in EU27. I need to travel for work - remote just now obvs but not sure how this will pan out afterwards. Many colleagues are EU citizens so I feel it will be simpler to just give them the work and I my contract will not be renewed.

In Ireland, trying to buy from websites in NI or the EU to avoid extra charges from GB.

Sorne businesses have .EU websites with EUR prices but ship from GB. Really hard to tell what side of the divide some online merchants actually are!!

But on the plus side, quitting Amazon.co.uk is forcing me to shop local.

Has anyone else noticed that we are getting wine lake wine disguised as £4 wine?

Not in Scotland . You can't buy a bottle of wine here for less than £4.50 - and more than that if it's more than 12% alcohol

Went onto M & S website as normal to order flowers for mum for Mother’s Day . Went through the whole order and message but as soon as the Northern Ireland delivery address comes up....nope don’t deliver here no more

ds1 is a semi pro athlete (i.e. he doesn't make any money from it yet!) in a sport which requires him to spend time training and competing in Europe. Before it wasn't a problem, now he's limited in the time he can spend there. He would have been able to work part time as training is usually early mornings - also now not possible. What he does leads into a career path which is largely based in Europe - again cut off for him. He would likely have gone to a European University to be closer to the area he needs to be in. As an EU student that was possible, non EU it's another avenue cut off. So it's impacted him massively.

My company works in a pretty specialised sector and we often hire graduates and people with masters from 2-3 universities in Europe which have dedicated courses. This is because the U.K. only had one course, and doesn’t churn out enough graduates.
Now we’ll either need to pay around 8k/person to hire from abroad (between the health surcharge, the visa, the guarantee for bank account etc) or we’ll be like our competitors- aggressively targeting people already with settled status, in the field. Basically driving artificially up the salaries of the ones already in. Not that I mind per se raising salaries of young people, but it’s not the budget we planned for.

Also- this is a good one- if you go to the EU for business and bring with you a laptop or phone worth more than 390£, you need to declare it in advance, and pay tax or buy an ATA carnet of 325£

content.govdelivery.com/attachments/UKDECC/2021/03/01/file_attachments/1708487/Business%20Travel%20Explainer%20-%20FINAL.pdf

Non-UK here. Relatively minor in the grand scheme of things... I collect Emma Bridgewater pottery and love to treat myself and stock up in the twice-yearly sales. No longer a treat when a massive customs charge of unknown size is slapped on top. And I simply can’t afford the full-price items any more, so no more customised pieces for me.
As for buying from local shops - when and if I can afford it - the new pieces aren’t here yet, they’ve all been held up at customs!
It’s a sad end to a hobby that’s brought me a lot of joy.
For me personally, no biggie. For the company, I hate to think what the effect will be.

Also, I can’t get my book club book! I ordered it a month ago and it’s still not arrived in the shop. We’re meeting tomorrow night I saw university booksellers on the news saying they couldn’t get English-language textbooks that students needed for courses. They’re all stuck at Dover.

The racism is definitely the worst side effect.

Also customs charges. And not being able to take food into and out of the EU.

I haven't noticed a single benefit.

@DaysAreGettingLongerNow I read on one of the brexit threads that Emma Bridgewater supported brexit. If that's true then I don't have much sympathy if the company is negatively affected but I'm sorry it's affecting you with the customs issue.

I could be very wrong but I’d be surprised if she personally was in favour, from what I know of her. But what would I know?

I've been Googling and can't find anything but I definitely read it on here on a brexit thread. I hope it's not true.

Vehicle type approval... Say goodbye to your special purpose vehicles people well actually it more that it's such a niche industry and very high investment costs that most coach builders need to export to make ends meet.
But because we've lost our ability to push the EU they can alter type approval and make exporting harder as a result which will mean the industry will shrink.
So no more Hearses, wheelchair accessible vehicles.

Personally, not noticed any difference, apart from getting my vaccinations quicker out of the EU

That's hardly a Brexit consequence not covered in the Press though is it? The Press has been absolutely full of how Johnson has stuck it to the EU.

The Press has not been full of how the NHS has done a million times better with its vaccine programme than his chum Dido Harding with the failed track and trace that he spaffed billions on. Or how international scientific collaboration, which Johnson's Government is now hell bent on closing the UK doors to, enabled the vaccine to happen.

Oh no, it's all about how I can justify my Brexit vote, and the vaccine roll out is the only badge you can wear. Which 100% did not inform your Brexit vote, because the virus hadn't mutated to its deadly form then.

Peregrina, As I said personally I haven’t noticed anything detrimental since leaving the EU over 3 months ago and now nearly 5 years since the majority who voted, voted to leave the EU, time to move on isn’t it?

None of us can move on Sirius 99 because thanks to Brexit and the idiots who have supported this country is hurtling back to the fifties. So bollocks to moving on thanks very much.

I've had a parcel from a German company no problems. Their website said they cover fees and everything went without a hitch.

I'm a brit in the EU. I've had to deal with a complete breakdown of relationship with my family in the UK, had to pay thousands to secure residency of my husband, children and I, had my bank accounts closed, had to pay to release gifts posted to us from friends in the UK, had shopping orders here where I live delayed/cancelled as the companies supplier is in the UK, seen a huge price increase in UK goods here (eg Easter eggs for the kids) while choice has pretty much disappeared.

Still waiting for a single positive to deal with, even a tiny one would be nice.

@Sirius99

Peregrina, As I said personally I haven’t noticed anything detrimental since leaving the EU over 3 months ago and now nearly 5 years since the majority who voted, voted to leave the EU, time to move on isn’t it?

What makes you think your own very personal experience is in any way representative?

This is an interesting story, and in no way unique:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56430392

NI is a small market of fewer than 2 million people. Disruptions in trading with NI may be catastrophic for some British firms, but won't necessarily mean a system-wide crisis. Disruptions in trading with the rest of the EU (remember than shipping to NI is now the same as shipping to the EU) is, however, an entirely different story!

Medium sized financial services company here. We’ve spent millions on consulting, admin and approval costs and countless person hours to set up new companies in the EU and move hundreds of millions of EU-related assets overseas. Billions of pounds across the industry has had to be moved to the EU in order to keep trade running. It’s mostly been carried out seamlessly behind the scenes, and it’s been given virtually no publicity, but it’s been a huge expenditure of time and money for no positive value that I can see. KPMG has done well out of it though...