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Westministenders: Festive Edition

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RedToothBrush · 22/12/2020 21:00

Good King BBBBaBoris looked out,
on the Port of Dover,
There the shit lay round about,
Deep around the stopover;
Brightly shone the moon that night,
Tho’ the frost was cruel,
When a poor man came in sight,
Delivering stuff for Yule.

“Bugger SAGE and stand by me,
We've all stuff that needs selling,
Yonder peasant, who is he?
Where and what his dwelling?”
“Sire, he lives a good league hence,
The other side the EU;
Though relations maybe tense,
He's trying to get goods through.”

“Oh god I need another wine,
I have many crisis to consider:
We must tell them its all fine,
I must not be seen to dither.”
SAGE and monarch, forth they went,
forth they went together;
Through the nation's sad lament
and really crappy weather.

“Sire, our plight is darker now,
And the covid transmission stronger;
Fails my heart, I know not how;
To keep Tier 2 much longer.”
“Soon we can drop their wage.
And treat them all more coldly
In Britain's new chrony age
A time to rob more boldly.”

In their master’s steps they trod,
On the quest to get minted;
Each and every last sod
Needs to be fingerprinted.
Therefore, Christian men, be sure,
DWP claimants are processing,
Ye who now will bless the poor,
God its all so depressing.

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TheElementsOfMedical · 24/12/2020 13:09

EXCLUSIVE: Government’s Own Deal Analysis Scorecard Reckons UK Won 43% of Negotiating Issues, 40% Were Compromises, 17% EU Wins

If it keeps the BeLeavers placid, I'm happy for them to spin it any way they fancy.

Obviously there will never be a "deal" as good as being a member, but those of us who are chopped liver are not the intended audience - the only TruBrits (17 million of them) are.

The most important bare minimum for me, since the YouLostShutUpAndStopExisting narrative of 2016, is simply to have any deal that keeps essentials like food and medical supplies flowing. If this deal does that, I'll consider disaster to have been averted, and Brexitannia can hopefully get on with sagging gently into decades of decreasing global relevance.

HannibalHayes · 24/12/2020 13:12

Keith Burge
@carryonkeith
It’s as if we’ve spent four and a half years painfully filing the edges off 50p pieces to celebrate the launch of a new 10p coin.

veeeeh · 24/12/2020 13:14

@DGRossetti

Following Gibraltars news, what's the Irish stance in Schengen ?

Obviously the UK was never going to join (I can see Scotland doing so when independent). But are the Irish opposed to it, or did they not join because the UK didn't ?

Of course, if you were going to begin the political process of recovering Gibraltar, then joining Schengen would be the first step ....

Got to do with the historical issue of UK/ROI Common Travel Area, re residence etc. of each others people, sorry if you know this already.

Schengen will not solve that, although it would be bloody great for ROI just the same!

HannibalHayes · 24/12/2020 13:14

From Bloomberg.

“The EU appears to have secured a deal which allows it to retain nearly all of the advantages it derives from its trading relationship with the U.K., while giving it the ability to use regulatory structures to cherry pick among the sectors where the U.K. had previously enjoyed advantages in the trading relationship,” Barr said in a research note.

Peregrina · 24/12/2020 13:17

Well, whose story are we likely to believe? The Brexiters - We won, we won! Or the EU's more quiet 'retain nearly all of the advantages?'

ReturntoSpamfritters · 24/12/2020 13:20

@HannibalHayes

Keith Burge *@carryonkeith* It’s as if we’ve spent four and a half years painfully filing the edges off 50p pieces to celebrate the launch of a new 10p coin.
Excellent analogy
ListeningQuietly · 24/12/2020 13:20

Gosh I'm glad I did not expect anything from last nights breathless news stories.

Had a lovely swim in the sunshine - last one of the year Sad

And will now go play in the garden.

I will believe that a deal is done ONLY when it is actually done

all else is hot air and squirrels

veeeeh · 24/12/2020 13:23

@Peregrina

Well, whose story are we likely to believe? The Brexiters - We won, we won! Or the EU's more quiet 'retain nearly all of the advantages?'
It was ever going to be thus. Of course the BXrs will claim victory after capitulating so much. Who cares anyway? I don't get all the Brittania rules at all.

Someone will make a mint out of this. Guess who. How is Top Hat Rees Gong doing?

And anyway, am presuming FOM and all associated issues are still with us. So Trade Agreement with EU is for some, not others,

HannibalHayes · 24/12/2020 14:12

Barry Smith #MakeVotesMatter #FBPE Flag of European Union
@BarryNL
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Looks like today is the day that the Brexiters find out what it is they knew they were voting for.

HannibalHayes · 24/12/2020 14:19

Ian Dunt's article in the "i" paper.

“The government wants Brexiters to believe that this is our final step out of the EU. In fact, it is our first step back towards it.”

Peregrina · 24/12/2020 14:35

The BBC has a helpful explainer about what will happen after 1st January.

I hope a Brexiter can come and tell what the advantages are, because I don't see them myself.

GingerPCatt · 24/12/2020 14:50

Sky reporting that a deal has been agreed. Is it true?

Tearsfortiers · 24/12/2020 14:53

BBC reporting it too.

quiteathome · 24/12/2020 15:03

Brexiteers might just like standing in queues and filling in paperwork. Apart from that unsure of the advantages.

Peregrina · 24/12/2020 15:05

From the BBC website:

Here is the government's statement: "Everything that the British public was promised during the 2016 referendum and in the general election last year is delivered by this deal."

"We have taken back control of our money, borders, laws, trade and our fishing waters

"The deal is fantastic news for families and businesses in every part of the UK.

"We have signed the first free trade agreement based on zero tariffs and zero quotas that has ever been achieved with the EU.

"The deal is the biggest bilateral trade deal signed by either side, covering trade worth £668bn in 2019.

"The deal also guarantees that we are no longer in the lunar pull of the EU, we are not bound by EU rules, there is no role for the European Court of Justice and all of our key red lines about returning sovereignty have been achieved.

"It means that we will have full political and economic independence on 1st January 2021."

"A points-based immigration system will put us in full control of who enters the UK and free movement will end.

"We have delivered this great deal for the entire United Kingdom in record time, and under extremely challenging conditions, which protects the integrity of our internal market and Northern Ireland’s place within it.

"We have got Brexit done and we can now take full advantage of the fantastic opportunities available to us as an independent trading nation, striking trade deals with other partners around the world."

How true is any of this?

MaddieElla · 24/12/2020 15:12

@Peregrina on this thread, none of it.

HappyWinter · 24/12/2020 15:12

I suspect that Christmas is a great distraction to any scrutiny for a few days. Plus with the rapidly increasing covid numbers, the focus will be on that.

HannibalHayes · 24/12/2020 15:19

This

OopNorfDahnSarf · 24/12/2020 15:23

They have rejected Erasmus. Fuckwits!

titchy · 24/12/2020 15:23

@OopNorfDahnSarf

They have rejected Erasmus. Fuckwits!
Shock
DrBlackbird · 24/12/2020 15:26

@OopNorfDahnSarf

They have rejected Erasmus. Fuckwits!
Oh no! Where is this being said?
titchy · 24/12/2020 15:27

What about Horizon, Euratom?

OopNorfDahnSarf · 24/12/2020 15:29

Why would they be scared of kids meeting people, making friends and sharing ideas?
BBC News Live. Simultaneous translation of Barnier`s speech

quiteathome · 24/12/2020 15:30

Just heard about Erasamus. This is appalling.

Peregrina · 24/12/2020 15:33

I note that he doesn't say that this is a fantastic deal for students, who he might remember, do tend to be young people.