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As Noel would say - Deal or No Deal?

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FreshfieldsGal · 13/12/2020 11:28

Do people think Boris will get a deal at the eleventh hour, or will it be no deal?

I think it'll be no deal.

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willsantausesantatize · 13/12/2020 11:36

According to the Daily mail businesses are being told it's no deal.
( I know it's the mail ..)
However, the tv news isn't all doom and gloom : maybe things will turn around?
I've no idea at all.

Mistigri · 13/12/2020 12:06

I was about 60:40 deal/no deal yesterday.

Today with news that the final deadline was not the final deadline after all, I am 80:20 deal/no deal.

It sounds like Johnson has conceded that future divergence will have a cost, which is the big breakthrough IMO.

His backbenchers will hate it, but it will be enough for him to present it as a triumphant world-beating deal.

ThatsMySantaHisBeardIsSoFluffy · 13/12/2020 12:12

It sounds like Johnson has conceded that future divergence will have a cost, which is the big breakthrough IMO.

If that's true, then I'm erring towards deal.

Maybe he read Hillary Benn's measured Twitter feed!

willsantausesantatize · 13/12/2020 12:18

It sounds a bit more upbeat today I think?
11th hour talks !

ThatsMySantaHisBeardIsSoFluffy · 13/12/2020 13:18

The report from the Cabinet call is that it's still gloomy news.

ListeningQuietly · 13/12/2020 14:03

No deal.
Sadly.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/13/the-eus-red-lines-were-clear-in-2016

ThatsMySantaHisBeardIsSoFluffy · 13/12/2020 14:45

It all boils down to cake-ism still then.

Snog · 13/12/2020 14:47

I think the deadline will be extended beyond 2020 as 4 years is not enough to come to an agreement.

ListeningQuietly · 13/12/2020 15:41

@Snog

I think the deadline will be extended beyond 2020 as 4 years is not enough to come to an agreement.
The deadline cannot be extended again. More fool the UK Govt invoking A50 without a clue
willsantausesantatize · 13/12/2020 15:53

If the government extend the talks anymore ( maybe into the new year) Boris will be toast surely and he knows it.

AaronPurr · 13/12/2020 15:55

I'm also thinking it's probably going to be a no deal.

Snog · 13/12/2020 17:55

The talks can be extended by passing primary legislation and the EU will definitely agree to this, so unfortunately it absolutely could happen.

StormzyinaTCup · 13/12/2020 18:07

It would need a further act of Parliament first though I think.

KittenCalledBob · 13/12/2020 18:08

I think deal. I am an optimist though.

ListeningQuietly · 13/12/2020 18:42

@Snog

The talks can be extended by passing primary legislation and the EU will definitely agree to this, so unfortunately it absolutely could happen.
link please (on the EU side)
ChequerBoard · 13/12/2020 18:56

I think there is practically no chance of a deal being done at this stage.

I'm finding it really hard to take - what the firetrucking hell are we letting these morons do to our country and all our futures? This would be shooting ourselves in both feet in normal times, but to even consider doing this at the height of a pandemic is criminal.

vera99 · 14/12/2020 03:28

A deal - the cabinet have said they will back any deal that he brings back. Starmer will nod it through even if ERG piss all over his political deal and the Eu will allow some minor concessions to be tarted up to count as major concessions. He is a weak and vacillating excuse of a man and the EU has shown resolve. Panic buying now I see as a legitimate form of protest for the more images of long queues and empty supermarket shelves compounded by endless calls from real businesses in crisis will push his hand to sign. So get shopping ...

As Noel would say - Deal or No Deal?
ThatsMySantaHisBeardIsSoFluffy · 14/12/2020 06:44

@Snog

The talks can be extended by passing primary legislation and the EU will definitely agree to this, so unfortunately it absolutely could happen.
Even if were technically true, this would be political suicide for BoZo.
BefuddledPerson · 14/12/2020 06:50

It could go either way, he's very indecisive and doesn't understand the detail anyway.

What a mess. Brexit is the shittest idea, and it has been made even shitter by having fools in charge.

CherryValanc · 14/12/2020 06:57

No deal. Boris is too much of a populist to agree to a deal that would displeased the media. He doesn't think long term,.so consequences be damned.

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FreshfieldsGal · 14/12/2020 07:10

I suppose the only thing to do is to add to my stockpile of food / household items. Either way, it won't go to waste. I feel sorry for those who can't afford any potential price rises - there's already so much food poverty here.

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LizzieSiddal · 14/12/2020 07:23

I too think No Deal. Johnson and his cronies always wanted a No Deal in my opinion. They know they and their friends will be ok, they’ll make billions in disaster capitalism and the Uk will eventually recover. They don’t care about anyone else and hopefully the population will stop being taken in by these liars and they’ll be kicked out at the next GE.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 14/12/2020 21:43

I agree with Lizzie - Johnson never wanted a deal. So there won't be one.

Sarahlou63 · 14/12/2020 21:46

Read the Murdoch et al Tory press (that's what Johnson does) - he'll make a deal.

Snog · 22/12/2020 18:28

@ListeningQuietly now on BBC news, EU happy to extend. They always have been.