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Do we have to declare ourselves non-EU citizens after 31st January?

61 replies

smemorata · 30/01/2020 16:35

Just that really! If I am asked what am I?

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ListeningQuietly · 31/01/2020 23:47

Melton
So, Alexander Pfeffel was born in New York to Turkish and British parents
what passport should he hold?

meltonmowbray · 01/02/2020 00:16

He should think about it very carefully and then make his choice.

ListeningQuietly · 01/02/2020 00:18

melton
and are you happy with the choice he made

meltonmowbray · 01/02/2020 00:23

It's not for me to be happy or unhappy with anyone's choice. That is their concern.

HPFA · 01/02/2020 08:05

@thirdpassport

Yesterday I sent off for my father's birth certificate so I could start the process of getting my daughter on the Foreign Births Register if she wants an Irish passport in the future.

I, apparently, already am an Irish citizen. I don't know whether I'll apply for a passport myself - I may do so when my UK one expires just so I never have to face having a UK one without EU on it.

It's literally insane that my daughter could have rights and advantages over her fellow Brits just because her grandad (who died over twenty years ago) was born in Ireland.

But FOM can be had without EU membership so we can continue to make the case for it. If Keir Starmer becomes Labour leader he's already committed to bringing it back. So I guess we have to turn our energies to politics.

Dutch1e · 01/02/2020 16:16

@Pollaidh I'm a non-EU partner of an EU citizen and the immigration people at Schiphol recommended we go through the EU queue together. So that's what we've done since, at a small handful of European airports. Seems to work smoothly.

Dutch1e · 01/02/2020 17:26

Getting in the same queue and having FOM are completely different things!

That's true. It's just a bit easier to write FoM than EU Directive 1234 Family Reunion etc etc.

Probably should use the correct terms, but as we're both non-EU migrants you know how it is, you get so used to all the rules that it becomes shorthand.

Pollaidh · 01/02/2020 21:08

Thanks! I'm, as of today, a non-EU wife of an EU citizen.

PhoneLock · 12/02/2020 09:58

FFS neither is the commonwealth,

commonwealth

noun
1.
an independent country or community, especially a democratic republic.

bellinisurge · 12/02/2020 10:57

"It's literally insane that my daughter could have rights and advantages over her fellow Brits just because her grandad (who died over twenty years ago) was born in Ireland."
She may be a Brit but she will also be an Irish citizen. She doesn't have "rights over them", she has rights.

HPFA · 13/02/2020 11:57

@bellinisurge

Well "rights that other British citizens don't have due to a lucky accident that her grandfather was born in Ireland in 1926" then.

Suspect this is why FOM will come back - a young generation will feel aggrieved at seeing a few of their lucky peers having opportunities that were taken a way from them. Luckily FOM is not dependent on EU membership.

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