What are you most looking forward to POST-Brexit?

[Pumperthepumper]

I was a remain voter, and voted tactically against the Tories. I lost.

But onwards and upwards! We’re getting Brexit in January, like it or not, so I was just wondering what everyone was looking forward to the most?

I asked on a different pro-Brexit thread but nobody gave me an answer.

For me it’s the 350 million to the NHS with no trade deals with Trump. Or the continuing Peace in NI with no messing around with the GFA. Or the trade deals we’ve been promised without any reduction in standards.

I’m so ready to be convinced of how brilliant Brexit will be! Let me hear your positives, please

Still not many positives rolling in, although good news about the hoovers and the eames chairs!

Depends on the trade deals, doesn't it? I'm looking forward to excellent trade deals, strengthening GBP against Euro and increasing investment in the UK. If these don't happen then what's it all for? I have a Citizenship in another eu country so I can hop off if things go belly up. Didn't get to vote so need to make sure my family and I will be ok whatever happens.

I can't wait for my duty free allowance when I travel to France. I'll be able to save a tenner on the whole 4 litres of wine allowance I'll have.

...as I spend most of my life outside the UK and out of the UK tax system. However, I pay my own National Insurance so that I qualify for state pension and healthcare in the UK....

I would not crow to soon on this one MysteryTrip - it will depend which country you choose to retire to. At present, which country you retire to will affect your State pension. Retire to e.g.Canada and it will be frozen at the rate it was paid at on the date you left or start drawing it.

Of course you could lie Mystery and use the address of a UK contact to have your pension paid to. It's not the way I behave, but you would be in good company in a country which has just voted to be led by a liar and a cheat.

Mystery loves shit stirring from afar. Ignore.

I know that Mystery and others just come on to crow and shit stir.

But it's still worth posting - there might be someone out there thinking that they need to get out and will retire to e.g. Canada. They then need to know that their state pension, for which they have paid contributions won't be uprated and plan accordingly. To my knowledge, no Government has promised to tackle this. So chose your country carefully. At present pensions to EU countries are uprated, but who knows whether this will continue?

I'm looking forward to worker's rights and protections being stripped away. They were going to be protected under the original WA but now with such a huge majority BJ will be removing this concession to remainers.

Well done Tory Brexiteers, you must be so proud!

@dimsum123
Are you a business owner? I bet Philip Green and Mike Ashley will be celebrating.

You wonder just how much Mike Ashley will be celebrating when the E Europeans in his warehouse think 'Nah, no point staying here, I will be better off going back to Poland'.

Like the farmers who are already talking about crops rotting in fields.

Slightly looking forward to doing a trade deal with the US mainly so we can get normal Mountain Dew here and lucky charms will not cost the earth :]

I do get that that sounds pretty depressing but you did ask for any positives :]

This is a bit like the last war amd - so many people lost a lot, but for others it provided opportunities closed to them earlier. E.g. it brought a lot of people work, people who had been out of work in the 1930s.

Well apparently the workers' protection rights are already on their way out and Govt will pass a bill saying that we leave on Dec 31 2020 regardless. No Deal here we come. Wot larks eh? (sorry, I cant see any positives at all)

I agree yolofish, but in practice, how many rights do those in the gig economy have?

I couldn't help but think of the end of feudalism - the black death killed so many off, that those who survived could say to the Lord of the Manor - forget your feudalism, chum, I'm off.

I know I am in the south east, where it might well be different but most of the delivery people who come are E Europeans, as are most of the bin men. They too only need to say, I'm off.

And they do:

www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/28/net-migration-from-eu-at-lowest-level-since-2003-ons-figures-show

@KenDodd, I'm not a business owner. I'm a worker. I was being sarcastic.

I've just heard about a business that helped elderly people to insulate their homes to reduce heating bills. It was funded entirely by EU grants. The owner will have to make all 18 of her staff redundant.

If any of those staff voted to leave, they're getting what they wanted, so I hope they're happy now. I guess this was the sort of thing the they were looking forward to....

@Peregrina, agreed gig economy workers do not have sufficient rights and protections. And they have zero chance now of being given any rights under a Tory gov hell bent on leaving with no deal. If we were still in the EU they would have a much greater chance of gaining rights.

The EU are on the side of ordinary workers and consumers and citizens, giving us all rights and protections, they are not on the side of big business (eg forcing Apple to pay taxes due) which is why the likes of Rees Mog et al are so keen for us to leave so they can exploit us and get even richer without any constraints on how they operate.

No doubt this is another thing Brexiteers must be looking forward to...

Will retire to UK after assets in UK have been distributed elsewhere out of HMRC view.

Certainly won’t make the mistake my father did and allowed his assets to grow only for them to be used for care home fees.

Will retire to UK after assets in UK have been distributed elsewhere out of HMRC view.

So unethical.
You want to retire here so presumably you will be using public services like the NHS. Will you be paying for everything privately? Or just using without contributing?

I have a possible positive that we could grasp.
Leaving the Common Agricultural Policy means we are producing our own British Agricultural Policy & farming subsidy system which has the potential to be more appropriate for our countryside & sector than CAP.
So - it could lead to environmental gains.
It won't though because they are fucking it all up and don't really care but hey the possibility is there

@Ihaventgottimeforthis where is the money for all these subsidies going to come from?

Apparently taxes aren't going up. So probably borrowing. That's if the subsidies actually materialise which I very much doubt.

Borrowing has to be paid back, but with it taking 50+ years for the economy to recover from Brexit (source : JRM) I'm not sure how on earth we'll generate sufficient GDP to repay.

This thread hasn't been at all enlightening about what Brexiteers are looking forward to, I wonder why....

agreed gig economy workers do not have sufficient rights and protections. And they have zero chance now of being given any rights under a Tory gov hell bent on leaving with no deal.

Absolutely, and some people are going to have a rude awakening.
DH's cousin up in the N West was trying to tell people this, but they still either voted Tory or stayed at home.

Ah well it's this £350M a week you see - £58M of that will go to farmers will it bollocks.

Before someone tells me that DH's cousin was patronising people - no, he's proudly working class, proud of being educated in the university of life, but has had spells of redundancy, and knows jolly well that the Tories won't be responsible for buttering his bread any time soon.