Westminstenders: From Uxbridge to...?

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Speaker Bercow is gone.

Speculation that Johnson is parachuting into Rutland.

Rumours that the Brexit Party won't contest the election.

A new speaker to be elected on Monday.

Parliament to dissolve next week.

Brexit? Oh we've forgotten that until Friday 13th...

Haha hoooooo I've wondered the same.
Unfortunately tho he is clearly a massive narcissist so I dont think it is that

The best result then would be another hung Parliament... I really want the Tories to sort out the shitfest they have wished upon us, but at the same time, I dread the thought of what else they will wreck in the process.

Glad it's not just me quentin!

I've been pondering the Brexit party thing as it does seem to be potentially hugely damaging to the Conservative vote...

And they are the party that will be most likely to get as hard a brexit as possible without no deal, whilst leaving an opportunity to still get no deal.

I presume he's working on the basis that the tories will get a slim majority, and if the brexit party get a decent amount of seats in Parliament they will be in a position to support leaving with no deal either on 31 Jan or 31 December 2020?

Where I think this strategy falls down is that I don't think 'We just want to leave' which has been the battle cry of many leavers necessarily translates as 'we want no deal'.

Being 'fine' to leave with no deal is not the same as actively wanting it and if boris manages to persuade them that we will be leaving (although he's lost credibility on this - see Oct 31st) I would imagine there's a significant clump of leavers who will stick with the tories.

Long way to go yet, though.

Data tables for recent poll

www.orb-international.com/2019/11/03/westminster-voting-intention-30-31-october-2019/

How much of 'We just want to Leave' is really 'We are just sick of hearing about Brexit'?

Just a poll - but things aren't as clear for Johnson when you go into detail

Support for Conservatives and Labour down, Lib Dems and Brexit up.
Lots of don't knows.

Interesting to see the change between 2017 vote and 2019 intentions.

Aw thanks for the flowers prettybird...
Feel better this morning doing crafts with my kids :)
Thank you also for the happy bollard!

Lib Dem stands aside for the Greens on the Isle of Wight.

There really needs to be more standing aside. It clarifies who to vote for. Where there are several Remain candidates in a place, the risk is tactical voting won’t happen enough, or there will be conflicting advice from different tactical voting sites. Like in the EU elections.

bright-green.org/2019/11/02/lib-dems-stand-aside-for-green-partys-vix-lowthion-on-isle-of-wight/

And again - the Telegraph have published the results when it is saying "Who they will vote for"

There is 25% of the sample who were asked who have been excluded from the final results because they didn't give a party.

My 60 yr old neighbour has been a labour member since forever... she is feeling positive and says she will see me at hers for drinks on the 13th (when I finish a long run of shifts, so it's going to be tears whatever happens I think!)

I think being positive is important, not just negative raging about tories (easy as that is to do)... focussing on green new deal, housing, hospitals, schools. Don't you think we deserve better.

If only they focused on the manifesto squid if he could only get half of the policies through they would transform Britain for so many of us but ya know 'magic commie grandpa'

@JustAnotherPoster00 I agree regarding the manifesto. It's a shame JC is such a poor leader. A better incumbent would wipe the floor with Labours credible, costed policies and that would be no bad thing. I'm old enough to remember and draw parallels with Michael Foot who as a campaigner was top notch, but a leader, no.

Ooooh, seems that Steve Bannon wants to buy the Telegraph.

Anyways, the interviews have started:

• What did you have for Breakfast, Boris?
• Under Jeremy Corbyn, there would be no breakfast for anyone except the liberal elite.

• What time is it, Boris?
• With Jeremy Corbyn it would be back to the 1970s when people lived in caves and gnawed in mammoth bones.

• But what would you do, Boris?
• I would make sure Jeremy Corbyn doesn't steal your underwear and replace it with socialist bondage trousers.

...etc.

A better incumbent would wipe the floor with Labours credible, costed policies and that would be no bad thing.

Who in the PLP do you feel that could be?

@JustAnotherPoster00
Yvette Cooper - she has done more than anyone else in labour to try and hold the tories to account
Keir Starmer?

I think the obsessing about personalities is part of the problem with all this populist crap... I try to redirect any conversations back to policies when I can. look at people's voting records. etc

Yvette Cooper
Keir Starmer

...The Right Miliband.

Cooper - time Labour had a woman in charge. To my knowledge all parties with the exception of the Brexit party have had woman leaders at some time.

The thing about this election is that Boris loses if he doesn’t get a majority. A hung parliament wouldn’t be a bad result for anyone except the Tories.

I’ve found this argument to be quite persuasive with people who fear Corbyn. You can say “don’t worry about Labours more extreme policies - they need a big majority to get those through, vote to prevent a Tory majority.”

Margaret Beckett and Harriet Harman have both been acting Labour leader.

And Margaret Beckett was a jolly good acting Leader but acting Leader doesn't count when it comes to propaganda.

The right Milliband

Apparently its us Corbynistas that are in a cult and not the those that still want a guy who couldnt win a leadership election

Keir Starmer

Not as left wing as I'd personally like but would the ability he has shown as a lawyer as shadow Brexit transfer over into leadership, who knows but he's very competent at his brief, dont think the membership are aware of his left wing credentials in whuch he does have a few

To my knowledge all parties with the exception of the Brexit party have had woman leaders at some time.

The Brexit Party was founded by a woman. Farage staged a coup. She was thrown out for Islamophobia. I believe she's got into a bit of a spat with Farage again this weekend.

Good argument oubliette. I could also be used when people say that the LibDems are not abiding by the will of the people when they say they will revoke. The chances of them forming a Government and being able to do this are slender - so don't worry about this extreme policy.