Westminstenders: From Uxbridge to...?

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Speaker Bercow is gone.

Speculation that Johnson is parachuting into Rutland.

Rumours that the Brexit Party won't contest the election.

A new speaker to be elected on Monday.

Parliament to dissolve next week.

Brexit? Oh we've forgotten that until Friday 13th...

No, Parliament hasn't been dissolved, the election hasn't commenced. This is reporting on the machinations of Farage and Tories - negotiating positions. Front page news it isn't.

Though of course Farage's gurning face would put all people off cept those with the strongest stomachs.

I know you can't help yourself but this is just silly.

Not when you look at Swinsons voting record Misti and after that bloody weird interview on O'neil

SNP are determined to remain in the EU. As an independent country. It's likely to be the only way of achieving this.

Honestly Just ignore Owen he’s obsessed.

Swinson is going after Labour so that her Tory defectors and hopefully the voters they attract feel more relaxed.

I have a photo of Jones beaming at me in my kitchen as he hands over her degree to my daughter. (Couldn’t crop him out). He spoke well took time to speak to her and bagged her as a Labour voter. He needs to do more of that and less knocking seven bells out of people on Twitter. I tell him daily stop being so fussy about the Lib Dem’s

Wonder if we'll get to see Swinson cosied up to Johnson in the rose garden in a repeat of Clegg/Cameron

You are guilty of trying to smear by association. You're better than that. When you have current evidence, then you can make the snarky comments.

Not when you look at Swinsons voting record Misti and after that bloody weird interview on O'neil

Which would you personally prefer: a hung parliament or a Tory majority?

If a hung parliament scares you more, by all means campaign against the LDs. The tories will be grateful for the votes.

Wonder if we'll get to see Swinson cosied up to Johnson in the rose garden in a repeat of Clegg/Cameron

I think she'd prefer to be dead in that ditch.

If you don't think the Lib Dems moderated the Tories when they were in coalition together you weren't paying enough attention.
If you think a BJ majority will be better than a hung parliament then you should definitely focus your ire on the Lib Dems.

When you have current evidence, then you can make the snarky comments.

Wish that applied when it comes to Corbyn, jesus chill the fuck out, everyone theorises stuff on this thread, I've had to read some weird shit in regards to some posters and some grossly sexual type posts but theorise that someone who voted more with the Tory whip than some prominent Tories then you need to STFU seriously guys, or is because I'm pro Corbyn I cant theorise, if there was a new set of rules for the thread you could have CC'ed me

SNP are determined to remain in the EU. As an independent country. It's likely to be the only way of achieving this.

This ^

I'm whatever the opposite of a nationalist is, but the SNP are head and shoulders above the rest in terms of strategic ability. Sturgeon and others actually understand what's at stake.

Just Chill your beans.

It’s a theory but there are alternatives.

I wish Labour and Lib Dem’s would ignore each other on Twitter. They are as bad of each other it’s counter productive.

Need to fight the good fight not each other.

Meant to be a in there Just wasn’t meant to sound snippy.

Her voting record as a member of Cabinet is to be expected (and trust me: I don't like her and was glad when she was voted out albeit temporarily and I'd love to see the SNP win again in her constituency).

The one "rule" on this thread that has been pretty consistent is that we try to support our views with evidence. That hasn't changed.

And in case you hadn't noticed: many people on this thread are going to hold their noses and vote Labour . The point is that many are going to do so tactically, in order to ensure that the wanker BJ doesn't get a majority. There have even been complaints about the tactical voting websites that say to vote LibDem when it is obvious that the best alternative would be the LibDem.

I don't have to as I have a viable (left of centre) alternative

Odds on a Con majority have drifted since Trump spoke so highly of BoJo (1.8 to 2.2)

It’s a tough ask but I try to ignore voting records as much as possible as you don’t know if they were whipped.

Misti - I think the opposite of "nationalist" is (or should be ) internationalist - which, as it happens is what the SNP consider themselves to be, as they want to welcome all nationalities to Scotland, allow all those who live and contribute in Scotland to vote and look outwards to the EU and from there the world

But I get where you're coming from as I'd have voted No in 1979 (was just too young to vote, but still counted as a NO vote ) for very similar reasons. I am against ethnic nationalism - but the nationalism that the SNP espouses (which it has done for at least the 20 years I've voted for them) is civic nationalism: not blood based, but because you want to be Scottish/live/work in Scotland.

Swinson is going after Labour so that her Tory defectors and hopefully the voters they attract feel more relaxed.
I suspect the Labour defectors both at mp and member level have a lot to do with it as well. But I'd rather all the parties go against the Tories/brexit party right now. Not that any of them will of course.

If you don't think the Lib Dems moderated the Tories when they were in coalition together you weren't paying enough attention.

They'd have stopped tory policies if they had not gone into coalition - instead they enabled austerity and brexit and got nothing in return. I was paying attention thank you.

Just to be clear - I will hold my nose and vote for them if it stops a tory but I would not place any trust in any promise they make.

Sorry all, oh dear, this is a bad one! After this mornings "pact" talk

Farage to Boris "...It is your destiny! Join me, and together we can rule as father an...."

not envy.

That's just grim Louise. I find both those men utterly revolting.

www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/01/undercover-reporter-reveals-life-in-a-polish-troll-farm

Informative read on social media 'marketing' and fake accounts.

"Just to be clear - I will hold my nose and vote for them if it stops a tory but I would not place any trust in any promise they make."

That's my attitude, too. I will vote for them because they are the only ones that can beat Jeremy Hunt - and even then, it's going to be difficult. Tactical voting worked in 1997. It's the only thing that can work with FPTP.

NF knows it, too. He knows he doesn't stand a chance in hell unless he can piggyback BJ (what a horrible thought that is!).

Has Johnson picked a constituency yet, or is he still dithering?

I'm quite happy to have the Farage headlines today of him dismissing Boris's deal. How many candidates the Brexit Party fields and where is hugely significant.

It’s a tough ask but I try to ignore voting records as much as possible as you don’t know if they were whipped.

Yes. Same. Plus when you're talking about a number of years ago, it can be very difficult to understand the political context in which the vote was cast.

Time passes, opinions change, circumstances evolve. We need to allow MPs to make mistakes and change their minds.

Pretty I completely understand your sort of nationalism, but there is also a lot of ethnonationalism and quite extreme tribalism in the SNP.

Unlike Labour, whose members deserve a better leadership, the SNP leadership is far better than many of its members deserve.