If the Tories don’t get a majority then what?

[Jadefeather7]

What do you think will happen them?

Presumably the other parties will go for a second ref. Labour also presumably renegotiate the withdrawal agreement?
I’m not convinced this will be any more straightforward if it ends up a Lab/Lib coalition.

A second referendum based on a newly negotiated deal.

There needs to be a new deal negotiated because, if the majority voted to leave, the government needs something they can implement. So they still need to get the best deal possible because that may be our future.

There's obviously the issue of whether the EU would agree another extension, but I believe they would if it was a different government.

If its the same government, I do still fear us crashing out.

It's unlikely. The non Tory vote will get split between Labour and Lib Dem's/greens. Boris will sell out to Farage and pick up the Brexit party seats and pay off the DUP and whoever else has seats up for sale. I'd say we're looking at 5 years of Boris I'm afraid.

Well I for one would be celebrating. I really don't understand how anyone can look at the last nine years of Tory rule and think they've done a good job and that's the party for me. I expect loads of people will though and Boris will win so I won't bother getting the champagne in.

@CloudPop Would Serling out to Farage mean no deal then?

Well in my view, Farage et al expect that what will happen is that we will get the bits of the EU "we" want (trade on our terms etc) and none of the bits "we" don't want. Also bear in mind these people won't stop at us leaving the EU, many of them are personally invested in seeing the whole institution destroyed. Admittedly most of them are acting entirely out of self interest so basically, whatever suits em is what they will go for. And Boris will do whatever keeps him PM. He doesn't even pretend to care about anything outside his own self interest.

I don't think I can predict the future.
That said, my hunch is to expect another hung Parliament with Tories as the largest party.
Exactly like now, except DUP may not forgive.

The polls suggest that they won't. Possible labour/lib democrat alliance?

If BJ fails to get a majority having called an early election, then he has lost and Corbyn gets to have a go at forming a coalition or confidence pact. (No one really believes JC can get a majority.)

Shades of October 74 when Ted pushed the wardrobe in front of the door at 10DS and was on the phone to Thorpe.

If BJ fails to get a majority having called an early election, then he has lost and Corbyn gets to have a go at forming a coalition or confidence pact. (No one really believes JC can get a majority.)

Corbyn can "have a go" as much as he likes. If the minor parties wanted a loony socialist as PM, then presumably they'd already be in the Labour Party...

Let's hope it's hung (parliment...or the blond twat for that matter) and we finally get a people's vote on remain and Boris's armpit of a deal.

LibDems and SNP will give Labour a confidence and supply arrangement on the basis that we get a "people's referendum " and "indyref2".
And then that will go bump as soon as the referenda are fun and we'll have another election. If Leave wins a second referendum we leave on Johnson's deal. If Leave loses, we Remain.

"are fun " are run.

What @bellinisurge said.

referenda are fun

I predict the “Referenda Are Fun” Party will get 0.1% of the vote...

Corbyn will have to step down, as will BoJo.

This country is up shit creek without a paddle.

Bellini makes sense...that would mean No Deal now v unlikely then? It's BoJos deal or Remain?

Doesn't need to be a full Confidence & Supply deal. The SNP are going to take most if not all the Scottish Tory seats. And Labour do not even need to be largest party (see 1923-4). BJ called the un-necessary early election and if he fails to make net gains he has lost.

The SNP will give Labour support if they can get another indyref.

referenda are fun

A completely off-topic fun fact for a Sunday morning: thanks to BJ I have discovered the plural of referendum is referendums, not referenda. Several months ago there was a clip played on the radio (Pat Kenny on Newstalk - Irish radio presenter who is excellent on current affairs/politics). It was mentioned that some commentary was critical of his use of the word, given his classical education. Apparently, referendum as we use it in English is different to its use in Latin (noun vs adjective or something) so technically we should apply English rather than Latin language rules when it's plural. Hence referendums, not referenda.

So there was me, with my notions, put in my box.

That said, I do like the slogan "referenda are fun".

The point is we speak English, so it's referendums, agendas and paninis.

(and not penes and vaginae)

The point is we speak English, so it's referendums, agendas and paninis.

But also indices, larvae, algae, analyses, crises, theses, matrices, addenda, bacteria, millennia, strata, stimuli, syllabi, etc etc

Agenda is the plural of agendum so agendas is wrong. Mind you, technically agenda is incorrect if used as a singular noun but the convention is now to use agenda for the singular.

It depends on how it's borrowed from the original language and how it has evolved.

I don't think labour or the conservatives will get a majority. No one will work with the Tories to form a government so if they don't get a majority, they're finished. So the option would then pretty much be (if labour got a decent amount of votes) that labour and the SNP would join forces. It's possible, if Jeremy Corbyn promises them a second referendum and complete opposition to Brexit

The Tories hold 16 seats in Scotland. They will lose them in this election for sure. It's looking like the SNP will get pretty much a clean sweep of Scotland but maybe not all seats, maybe the lib-dems would get a few but definitely not the Tories, they are hated here

I'm not so sure SNP will clean sweep Scotland. I don't think they have managed their campaign well. They also have to contend with the negative Scottish mainstream media who are very anti-SNP (interestingly, the UK MSM appear quite accepting that SNP will win and Scotland will be independent imminently.)

The Conservatives and Lib Dems will do their best to oust SNP ( I believe this is already agreed for Skye and Lochaber) and I'd expect Scottish Labour to quietly support them.

The Lib Dems may well pick up some other seats. I think the Tories will hold on to the Scottish Borders constituencies and the North East Scotland areas. They might lose a few seats. I think it will be the end of Scottish Labour.

All irrelevant really. It's what happens in England that will determine government. Jo Swinson is being rightly ridiculed for her "Next Prime Minister" headline. They have little support and if the other opposition parties play on her voting record then they are unlikely to pick up ex and wavering Labour voters. The LDs are picking up Tory MPs at a rapid rate and I don't think that will sit well with the heart of the party.

Jo Swinson has said (to Andrew Neil) she will not work with Labour. That rules out a Lib Lab coalition. It might be possible we'll see a Lab SNP coalition overturn a slim Tory majority.

But who knows.

And another one gone and another one gone:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-50280977

Jo Swinson has said (to Andrew Neil) she will not work with Labour. That rules out a Lib Lab coalition.

Doesn't rule out confidence and supply.

If there is no Tory majority, I think the one thing we can say with reasonably high levels of confidence is that it will be a minority government and not a coalition.