Anyone else think we’re never going to leave the EU?

[dirtyrottenscoundrel]

What a complete waste of time, money, & in many cases anguish.

I reckon out but begging to be back in on worse terms within a decade.

I think it will happen at some point. I don’t think it will be in January though.

I was hoping the EU would offer a long extension of 2 years so we have time to sort it out.

The waste of money over this is just mind blowing.

It would be cheaper to give everyone a payoff and to tell us to forget all about it.

I hope so.

To add to my previous post, my first choice would be to revoke the whole thing and pretend it never happened. But I think we’ve past the point of no return sadly.

If we finally get to the point where the EU says no more extensions, then we revoke to avoid crashing out, perhaps to hold a referendum.

It's more likely that No Deal.

I think Britain will leave the EU politically, but keep the trade arrangements of the Customs Union and Single Market in place.
That is where the problem with the Irish border is. It will end up just a political split and then it would be just like other nonEU countries like Norway or Switzerland.

Yes, I've always believed it will never happen and I think that's a good thing! Because it's the worst thing we could do for our future prosperity and welfare in so many ways, and eventually a public vote will be unavoidable as it will have been so long since the first one, and we know so much more now and we know what was lies.

Yes a ridiculous waste of time and money but we still shouldn't throw good money after bad. Better to back down and change our minds than stubbornly fuck ourselves over for the next however many decades.

I don't like to make any predictions but I very much hope we can Revoke Article 50 and save the country from the madness of brexit.

I certainly hope we don’t leave, and if we do it is inevitable that we will re-join in some form at some point in the future, but on much less beneficial terms than we enjoy at the moment.

never going to happen - absolute shambles, will likely never bother to vote again as it's pointless

I think in the end we are headed for a Norway-Switzerland hybrid CU and bespoke trade deal that is the Single Market in all but name. Out of the CFP, CAP, ECJ, the Parliament and the Commission, but angling for observer status at the Council, where we might chip in our views, for a piece of vestigial Schrodinger's Cake.

Everybody claims victory and says this is what they wanted all along.

Yes Mockers, Norway/Swiss approach allows flexibility. After all, does Norway not exclude their fishieries from the EU CU? So they are out of fishing water sharing which is a real issue to Brexit. Britain could similarly exclude its fisheries from the CU.

Except that will mean being in a state of constant negotiations (I believe that's at least the case with Switzerland).
Perhaps it's a coincidence and I might be wrong but i travel to both countries regularly and the cost of living in Switzerland and Norway seems very high to me, especially food.

I think we'll crash out at some point next year. I think Boris will win the coming GE, leave with his deal then crash out 'no deal' at the end of the transition period. TTIP (extra) will quickly follow really fucking over ordinary people and selling control of the country to big business. The troubles in NI will restart (people in England won't give a shit). Scotland will vote for independence and start the process of rejoining the EU. There will be a rise in English nationalism and calls in England to dump Wales and NI, Nigel Farage and his followers will support this. We will be a much diminished country.

It's so depressing. Also, so far I've been right predicting where we are now.

It would be cheaper to give everyone a payoff and to tell us to forget all about it.

I said at the time of the ref if people had been asked do you want to:

1. leave the EU or
2. Have a £50 M & S voucher

A majority of people would have taken 2.

Instead we got 1 and we will all be hugely economically worse off. (Well apart from those few who profit from shorting the pound, selling US pharma here etc.)

One way or another Britain (and every other country) will eventually be out. Whether it will be brexit or just an overall collapse, next year or in fifty years etc etc is entirely unclear at this point. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things?

KennDodd

I think you’re probably right.

@KennDodd

Please can you explain this bit:

I think Boris will... leave with his deal then crash out 'no deal' at the end of the transition period.

The cost of Brexit so far is almost £77 biillion. About £450m per week in lost investment to the uk. So much for money being spent on the NHS.

The WA is only the start of the negotiations with the EU. It merely tidied up our current commitments and lays some ground rules. We have to negotiate a trade agreement with the EU after Brexit. Johnson’s deal has a transition period until 31 Dec 2020 to allow us to do this. But that won’t be even close to enough time. So his WA just moves the no deal cliff face.

Yeah, I reckon it’s not going to happen. I’ve said so from the start. What a total fucking skip fire.

The cost of Brexit so far is almost £77 biillion.

According to Dispatches on C4 last night, you can add on another £27 billion per year in increased cost of drugs for the NHS when we sign up to the 'great' US trade deal. Per year!

@AnuvvaMuvva

Please can you explain this bit:
I think Boris will... leave with his deal then crash out 'no deal' at the end of the transition period.

OublietteBravo has explained it for me.