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Gingerninja4 · 05/10/2019 22:44

Anyone else applied .One my boys wants to travel in Europe

Was never married to their dad but he is on birth certificate. Ex is Italian ( Sardinia) and never took British citizenship. Not sure if they be entitled

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cherin · 05/10/2019 23:41

Yes. If his father is Italian, he has Italian citizen rights by birth. He needs to get registered to the Italian consulate near to him, and start the process. In theory it should be quick and straightforward, in practice the admin at least in London is the stuff of nightmares. Good luck!

cherin · 05/10/2019 23:43

(It’s horrific at the best of times. Now it’s literally under siege by requests like your son’s- thousands of people asking for citizenship they never needed to have confirmed, or passport they never needed renewed. So it’s horrific^3!)

cherin · 05/10/2019 23:45

(Btw- travelling to Europe will be possible on U.K. passports, up to 90 days every 180 calendar days, no visa. Working in the EU might require visa if we crash out, but the conditions would differ from country to country and nobody knows yet what they’d be)

Gingerninja4 · 06/10/2019 08:46

Thank you
Will start the process not sure how can prove his dad's citizenship as we have not seen him in 20 or so years

Cherin

He is planning on working and travelling so figured having Italian passport if we crash out be easier to do

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cherin · 06/10/2019 10:56

Even if his had had for any reason renounced his Italian citizenship, I think the kid would still have it, because you get it by birthright and you can only actively renounce it. Your son might be asked to prove that he never renounced it himself, which is a different story, but you’ll face that hurdle if you get there.
If the father was registered as an Italian abroad (aire) his data should be at the consulate and at the last Comune where he was legally residing in Italy. If you know where he was born, chances are that the people at the Anagrafe there (registrar?) will be able to help you. But you’ll struggle to communicate if you don’t speak any Italian ;-)

howrudeforme · 06/10/2019 11:04

Same here but his df still around. I’d imagine the system is clogged up as I think Italy gives out nationality quite easily and it’s not us in uk applying, think Venezuelans of Italian origin etc.

Can you track down your ex’s family?

We’ll be getting ds set up in the Italian system and I’d rather it sooner than later. Exh is really crap at this stuff so I’m going to do it myself. Ds has already been registered for some sort of account (and so was I ) might be some kind of national insurance...,

Pain the arse but so worth it.

So many leavers ask why we all didn’t get each others’ nationalities before and I’m bored of explaining that it just wasn’t needed.....

Best of luck,

Gingerninja4 · 06/10/2019 14:59

Thank you
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He certainly had it when the boys born he travelled on his italian Id card and after checking with one of his old friend's it has it as issue be that not British citizen as they said was looking at how he does .
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Sadly my spoken Italian so rusty I would cut myself

Know where he was born as visited his family in Sardinia a few times

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NitroJenny · 06/10/2019 15:22

Agree with PPs, OP's son has Italian citizenship by birth and is entitled to a passport. The reality though is that it's a long frustrating process, just registering with the AIRE takes 6 months and the consulate doesn't issue passports unless you are registered.

conslondra.esteri.it/consolato_londra/en/

You are in for a long slog OP, good luck!

NitroJenny · 06/10/2019 15:47

Do you still have the old ID card? If the address on it is a UK address your son should be already registered with the AIRE.

DGRossetti · 06/10/2019 17:12

There's a forum for folk worldwide:

www.tapatalk.com/groups/italiancitizenship/

that might be worth joining. Unless your DS birth was registered with the embassy, you'll need to go back to his DFs commune to dig out his birth certificate and then get notarised copies of your birth certificate and marriage certificate sent back to the commune to get your DS birth registered from whence you can then apply for a passport and try and get an appointment at the consulate (because they take fingerprints).

Probably best to approach it as if you were researching to write a book.

Buona fortuna !

lalalonglegs · 06/10/2019 17:56

If your son is just planning to work and travel within the EU, then it is slightly easier to get an identity card then go down the passport route. Once his citizenship is formalised, he can bypass the consulate and get one from the town hall where his father was last registered - trying to get a passport via the London consulate is almost impossible but a carta d'identita will prove his citizenship and be a lot less problematic (speaks from bitter experience).

cherin · 06/10/2019 18:35

I am fully registred, been for years, data all updated etc but when applied to get ID cards at the London consulate it still took them more than 7 months :-O plus they only give you the stupid paper ones that no border officer likes (as they’re easily forgeable), and you have to pick them up in person. They only cost 15£, though, so at least that’s a consolation ;-)

lalalonglegs · 06/10/2019 18:45

Yes, but you can get them from the comune at which you are registered in Italy (through your Italian parent) and it takes about 20 minutes Smile. The one I got is also paper but, whether border police like it or not, it allows me to travel freely. A UK passport will be fine for outside Europe (we hope).

smemorata · 08/10/2019 10:46

The paper ones are being phased out now and the digital ones take longer to get. You need to find out what documents the Italian embassy need to see to prove he's Italian. It's quite an easy process if you live in Italy - not sure from abroad!

Pinkywoo · 08/10/2019 10:59

Me and my Italian DH are about to have our first baby and want to get him an Italian passport, would it be best to wait until we're over there visiting? Also do we need to register his birth at DH's home town hall?

Pinkywoo · 08/10/2019 11:00

Sorry to jump on your thread @Gingerninja4!

Gingerninja4 · 08/10/2019 16:41

Pinkywoo
Jump away

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cherin · 08/10/2019 17:42

We registered our DS2 at the embassy here in London, it wasn’t difficult, just sent his birth certificate via post, we were already on the Aire register. They sent it on to the Comune for last residence...

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