Is DH being a drama queen?

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He reckons that No Deal will happen, there will be a GE called by Boris in November, the tories will storm a massive majority and we will be stuck with Boris for 4 more years.

Please tell me this is unlikely?!

DH is a staunch Labour member so is not happy about this prediction but I don’t know if he’s just being overly dramatic. I thought Boris didn’t have a big majority in the H of C and Teresa lost a lot of support in the last general election-would they storm it??

I think it's fairly likely. Sorry.

Boris with his fucking stupid no deal bullshit will get back all the Brexit Party people. Corbyn is unelectable.

I think your DH is right - the middle/left vote is split between Labour, Lib Dem's and Green. And I agree Corbyn is unelectable - but there's also no viable alternative in the Labour ranks to replace him. Depressing...

I think it's Boris's plan as well I'm afraid. General Election shortly after no deal when worst effects aren't apparent yet or potentially after another extension if no deal is blocked. Hoping to get a big majority either as the triumphant PM who has accomplished Brexit at last. Or if no deal is blocked and we extend he'll play the "I wanted to get it done but lefties blocked me", hoping to get a big majority and a "mandate" to take us out without a deal. Either way, thanks to FTP, we'll be stuck with him.

I don't think no deal will happen, but I do think we will leave at the end of Oct with an amended deal and agree with the rest of the predictions. He will call a ge and storm it.

I think there’s a fair chance he’s right, unless Corbyn can be ousted and somebody sensible put in his place. If David Milliband came back from the US and took over Labour the result could be very different. Or indeed any number of competent and sensible Labour heavyweights could do this. Why they are insisting on clinging on to Corbyn and McDonnell, and making themselves unelectable, is anybody’s guess.

I pray your dh is wrong, but I suspect this is indeed Boris’s gameplan.

Sounds realistic. I'm holding out a slim hope that Parliament will be bounced into WA 2.0 (my personal preference is for a border in the sea- but whatever saves GFA) and Johnson can wank to his heart's content about delivering Brexit and no one gets hurt.

Probably right, either that or Johnson gets a last minute 'deal' and the WA is signed. Also followed by a GE with a big Tory win.

I was hoping that the Brexit party would split the Tory vote - they won't all go back to the Tories, or Labour Leavers are more likely to favour the Brexit party rather than Tories. The rest of us are going to have to hold our noses and vote for the obvious Remain candidate, or 'lend' our vote to them this time.

I think a GE would result in a coalition between Brexit Party and Conservatives. Remember that GE is based on constituencies as opposed to percentages. This favours Brexit Party.

It is three years plus since the 2016 referendum, but has there been a shift from leave to remain? 406 constituencies voted leave in 2016 compared to 242 for remain.

A coalition between;

Labour
Lib Dems
Greens
Plaid Cymru
Change UK

Might get more seats than Brexit Party and Conservatives, but imagine a 5 way Coalition Government?

my personal preference is for a border in the sea- but whatever saves GFA

I thought the NI only backstop was a best way out of the impasse. However, some posters have suggested that too may lead to similar troubles as feared if a land border is made between North and South. If so is the NI only backstop still a viable solution to GFA?

He’ll get a deal as that’s been his plan all along then call an election and win. Corbyn won’t leave labour as Momentum won’t let him. He’s their puppet.

Keir Starmer?

Your h is correct. Corbyn is unelectable and him and his cronies are as much to blame for this whole shit show, as Johnson and his cronies.

All white, men with huge egos.

The tired cliche of "Corbyn is unelectable" hasn't exactly helped has it? Remainers trot it out as often as leavers.

When do voters take respsonsibility? We are here because this is what 17 million people wanted. If the Tories win a majority it is what "the people". Why haven't remainers won the hearts and minds of leavers over the last 3 years? What have Change UK/Lib Dems achieved? The only pro remain party making traction are the SNP.

Sorry but I think your DH is right. A no deal is looking inevitable and Corbyn is unelectable.

The only bit that's wrong in your dh's doom mongering Is that we'd be stuck with Boris for five years, not four

I agree as well. Combined with his people vs parliament strategy so that any negative effects of Brexit are blamed on remoaner MPs and the EU thereby boosting his own personal popularity.

The tired cliche of "Corbyn is unelectable" hasn't exactly helped has it?

It’s Corbyn and his team who make him unelectable, NOT the people pointing this fact out.

It’s Corbyn and his team who make him unelectable, NOT the people pointing this fact out.

And yet Labour were supposed to be wiped out in 2017 election. Remainers backed the Lib Dems and then Change UK. This approach failed. As I've said previously centrists/remainers have never had their finger on the pulse during this process which is partly why we are at this point. Nice marches though.

Been saying this all along. People have short memories. They've forgotten the austerity and underinvestment, particularly up here in the north. They voted for brexit and see Boris as a pm who seems to be eager to do it, whatever the costs, deal or no deal. He fits in well with their relentless demands to 'just get it done' so they'll vote for him in their millions. Sadly
politics is no longer along the lines of right v left, but remain v leave so I anticipate many former labour areas voting overwhelmingly for the tories; ironic really as they saw the referendem as a means to protest against tory imposed austerity

About as tired as the cliche of “remoaners” which I’m so tired of hearing.

Farage said clearly on the night of the referendum that if the result was 48/52 for Remain it wouldn’t be a done deal so why do Leavers like to say they would have just accepted the result?

Like fuck they would.

Yep. He’s right.

Oh for chaos with Ed Milliband!

He can't just call an election. The FTPA prevents it. If the opposition are canny, they'll leave him to stew in the shit of his own making. When the electorate come to realise who the architects of the mess are, that's the time to trigger a VONC to get rid.

He can't just call an election. The FTPA prevents it. If the opposition are canny, they'll leave him to stew in the shit of his own making. When the electorate come to realise who the architects of the mess are, that's the time to trigger a VONC to get rid.

He can call an election if two thirds of MPs support it.

OP - I think this is what will happen. It's very depressing.

I agree. Once he has pulled us all out of Europe in a no deal he has essentially got rid of the Brexit party. There will be no need for them any more. He will get all their voters and no one will want Corbin in power. Boris wins and we are stuck with him for another term.

The only bonus is Arlene and her cronies won't be needed and she might get her arse in gear and start doing her job here!!!!

Your DH is entirely correct.