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What happens with the NI border in the event of No Deal?

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Bearbehind · 01/08/2019 21:25

I can’t get my head round this.

If we leave with no deal then what happens regarding the NI border?

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placemats · 05/08/2019 17:00

No one knows what nationality you are MrPan, despite your 'UK' registration (don't you know it's different in Northern Ireland?).

You could have flown in from wherever and got the ferry across. Hello?

Why would you drive someone's car around when clearly that wasn't the intention?

Would you have done that in France?

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jasjas1973 · 05/08/2019 17:01

But how will that go down with the loyalist groups? could spark whole new terrorist campaigns during any transition period, so UK's problem to sort out and will delay, perhaps for decades, the unification process.

I just not see the UVF etc sitting back and doing nothing.

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whyamidoingthis · 05/08/2019 17:21

@placemats - You could have flown in from wherever and got the ferry across.

That's a pretty unlikely scenario. Most people driving British reg cars in Ireland tend to live in Britain. But yes, you are right, nobody would know his nationality. There would be a reasonable chance he was Irish but living in Britain.

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whyamidoingthis · 05/08/2019 17:22

@jasjas1973 - I just not see the UVF etc sitting back and doing nothing.

That's what I'm afraid of. Ultimately, I want to see a united Ireland. But not like this.

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MrPan · 05/08/2019 18:22

Oh definitely in France! If it was an old very stylish Citroen I would have been longer!
I doubt if the Cons right wing desperate to cling to.power give the GFA and Ireland overall a priority whatsoever. Its a problem to be managed. Badly.

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placemats · 05/08/2019 19:02

The UVF wouldn't get past twitter, never mind a road block.

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Shutupanddance1 · 05/08/2019 19:13

No idea what will truly happen but I assume my 30 min drive to my sisters house in Derry will take much longer. Angry

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whyamidoingthis · 05/08/2019 19:18

@Shutupanddance1 - No idea what will truly happen but I assume my 30 min drive to my sisters house in Derry will take much longer.

Particularly if you meet the soldier who wouldn't let my friend cross the border unless he called it Londonderry instead of Derry.

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bellinisurge · 05/08/2019 20:00

Planning to be in Ireland on 31 October. With Irish born FIL and our Irish surname and our UK plates. Assuming no bad feelings. If it looks dodgy we will cancel our holiday and not go.

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whyamidoingthis · 05/08/2019 21:26

@bellinisurge - Assuming no bad feelings. If it looks dodgy we will cancel our holiday and not go

You'll be fine. Bad feeling against the english isn't personal. Any anti-english sentiment tends to be more abstract and against the type of carry on by your government or tv stations claiming Irish sports people etc.

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Eve · 05/08/2019 22:51

I think in some areas anti English feeling still exists.

I’m NI born - from bandit country - but lived in England last 25 years so have quite an English accent. I do notice a slightly hostile / colder treatment in shops etc when I speak. It gets better after a few days once the accent goes native again!

You say about the army being scary - what’s worse was driving along a country lane late at night and getting the lights of a checkpoint and not knowing if it’s army, IRA or other stopping you.

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prettybird · 05/08/2019 23:17

I still remember, when I worked for ICI, which treated the island of Ireland as a single entity even back in 1988, driving with the Irish sales team from a product launch/presentation in Belfast to their customers there, down to Dublin to do the (same) presentation to their customers there.

I was horrified at the security around police stations in NI and then the watchtowers and, well, emptiness of the border area (which the Irish sales team explained to me was the "badlands" Sad).

I'd had NI friends at Uni (and it was only a few years post graduation) but I'd never been and it was a shock to the system to actually see the impact of the "Troubles" Sad

It shows how naive I was that I noticed all the security at the hotel we were staying in in Belfast: and only realised in the morning that it was directly opposite a stately home with a very long straight drive up to it ..... Confused

Someone had to tell me that it was Stormont. Blush

Yet as a Glaswegian, I was probably more aware than many in the UK of the issues in NI Blush

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whyamidoingthis · 06/08/2019 00:02

@Eve - You say about the army being scary - what’s worse was driving along a country lane late at night and getting the lights of a checkpoint and not knowing if it’s army, IRA or other stopping you.

Yeah. That was the type of checkpoint where I had a rifle held to my temple.

You're probably right about the anti-English sentiment still there in certain areas. Maybe more so in border areas. Is that in NI or Ireland you've experienced it?

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