Westminstenders: The Imperial March

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There are many ways to enforce power indirectly using privilege. Jacob Rees Mogg knows every trick in the book and dresses it up as respectability rather than a subtle form or intimidation and deliberate exclusion.

It's not the stuff 'of the people'.

Meanwhile the newly crowned PM, is making rather a bug deal of how he is the man 'of the people', here to serve them and to deliver their will.

There's a big theme here about presenting as 'of the people' whilst simultaneously serving the interests of the elite and reestablishing its power over the people.

It's a theme that is set to run for some time, and is entrenched in Trumpism too.

This shift in power is particularly harmful to women it must be noted.

'Strong and stable' was 'weak and wobbly' and we should be mindful that in the era of reversed spin, what 'of the people' signifies.

We've long known about the authoritarianism at the heart of leaving thinking. It's only now that it's finally going to start stomping it's feet all over our freedoms and power.

The road back will be a long and hard one because we failed to spot the threat and the dangers of it.

No. Corbyn isn't passionate enough. He doesn't appear to have gumption and oomph. If he was just bloody impassioned in the HoC and actually OPPOSED the government (the clue is in the name: opposition) his popularity rating would be far better. His wishy washy stance is what's done for Corbyn.

@howabout, the current chaos is enough to change any sane person’s mind I’d have thought!

Passion, gumption and oomph the guy has been out campaigning and protesting constantly, he was at an anti-fracking demonstration yesterday, you know the industry that Jo Swinson took £14K from and the industry that the Tories have no problem overriding a local council objections over it.

Anti fracking? Fiddling while Rome burns. Fracking’s the least of our concerns.

This is what Ian Dunt used to write. Anyone know why he changed his mind?

Cos he realised how badly thought out leaving was in practical terms and how complex it was. And didn't appreciate how much leaving would affect NI. Or rights in general.

9/10 times the only time you hear Corbyn in the news is if its someone slagging him off, theyve over egged the pudding since he got in, if they had just shut the fuck up and let every one judge Corbyn at the job done he wouldnt have such a dedicated following, like leavers have become entrenched in their positions Corbynites [eye roll emoji] have done the same especially when you look at the policies Labour are offering and you just want the country to improve and to be less unequal

Anti fracking? Fiddling while Rome burns. Fracking’s the least of our concerns.

Yeah fuck having earthquakes and a poisoned ground water, ridiculous statement

If Corbyn was actually DOING the job of opposing, he wouldn't get slagged off. He's failing at his role as Leader of the Opposition. He's just too insipid.

If Corbyn was actually DOING the job of opposing, he wouldn't get slagged off. He's failing at his role as Leader of the Opposition.

You honestly believe he'd get a fair hearing if he was the most amazing politician ever considering the policies he's offering? Lol is all I can say to that

My dad used to support apartheid. He then saw the error of his ways and within 5 years we left South Africa with him having a police file on him because of his opposition.

People change their minds

I used to support Labour, verging on "a monkey in a red rosette" voting because I believed (and still believe) so strongly in state education, the NHS (no coincidence that dad was a doctor and mum was a teacher ) and the welfare state, but wild horses wouldn't get me to vote Labour now - unless and until a separate Scottish Labour Party is set up post-independence

I also would've voted No to devolution in 1979 (but even though my vote counted "against", I wasn't actually allowed to vote ) but voted Yes with enthusiasm to devolution in 1997.

"It appears we have leave sects developing over who is a true believer and who is not"

We've had that for 2 years now,

with those Leavers wanting an EFTA / Norway++ type Brexit

• which Farage, Hannan & co talked up during the ref campaign -

denounced as Remainers and wanting BRINO

"There are not enough Left Remainers"

Labour are losing votes not just because of Corbyn, but because
at least 70% of their usual voters are Remainers.

For party members, Remainers are more around 80%

Corbyn is a genuine lifelong Lexiter, but his imposing his beliefs over the wishes of members and voters is killing Labour's chances
in the coming GE at least and maybe the one after as well.

If we get a No Deal crash, then many Labour Remain voters will not forgive Corbyn for blocking all the Remainer efforts in Parliament
Once they vote LDem, they may stay that way for many years

Brexit is a hard right & far right project,
with a few Lexiters taken in by the populist rhetoric

The populist right often pretends to be sympathetic to the concerns of the left,
but the minute the left are no longer needed to gain & hold power, they are toast

How has he blocked their efforts?

Other than the Cherry amendment he voted along with all the no deal preventative measures the last time TM tried to get her deal through,
Labour is currently campaigning for remain in the face of a tory no deal and any deal brought to parliament is subjected to a PV even if its Labour negotiating the deal, we see what we want to see I guess [shrug]

News popped up on my phone saying UK officials will meet EU officials despite Johnson bollocks about No Surrender.

Investment in UK car industry 30 x lower than before the referendum

That's not 30%, that's 30 x lower
Investment is 1/30 of what it was

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/31/brexit-causes-uk-car-industry-investment-to-crash-to-pitiful-90m

Investment in Britain’s car industry has effectively stopped amid fears over Brexit, with a “pitiful” £90m pledged for new developments in the first six months of this year,
according to the industry body.

Before Brexit clouded the horizon, the automotive industry was investing between £2.5bn and £2.7bn a year in research and development.

The Society of Motor Manufacturers & Traders (SMMT) said a Brexit deal was imperative to help the embattled industry to bounce back,
otherwise the government will face demands for the same type of tax breaks farmers need to stay afloat.

The SMMT also revealed that the industry has sunk £330m into contingency plans for a no-deal.

“That shows you the scale of expenditure having to be made potentially for no reason if we get a deal,”
said Mike Hawes, SMMT’s chief executive.
....
The £330m on contingencies has been spent on areas including new IT systems, regulatory work on chemical storage, warehousing, stockpiling of specialised pallets for parts and insurance for extra stock.

Hawes said the industry was preparing for no deal at the end of October
but the shutdowns by several companies in April could “not be easily repeated”.

It took BMW six to nine months to plan for that, said Hawes, and it would not be repeated in November.

The industry has been one of the most outspoken in the past year over Brexit,
arguing a no-deal would kill the sector and more than 100,000 jobs in “a death by a thousand cuts”.

Corbyn sleeping on the job - from someone who wants him to stay on

Many of his supporters are in despair

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/31/labour-total-wipeout-boris-johnson

All last week, while Johnson was being chauffeured to the palace, making his victory speeches and assembling his first XI,

Jeremy Corbyn held not a single meeting with his own politicians on the new prime minister and how Labourr^ would fight him.^^

Oh, it had come up at shadow cabinet, I was told, but “towards the end, and the discussion didn’t really go anywhere”.
No major strategy meeting is planned.

“It’s as if nothing has changed – but everything has changed,” said one senior frontbencher, after surveying the Sunday front pages plastered with Labour’s biggest political threat in years.

A Corbyn loyalist, he despairingly described a party already packing up for the holidays even as Johnson prepared for an autumn election.
....
if Labour continues to sleep through the summer, it risks wipeout.
....
First, it needs to come out wholeheartedly for a second referendum and remain.
< YES >

I Yeah fuck having earthquakes and a poisoned ground water, ridiculous statement^

I live 5 minutes away from that fracking site (outs self). There’s no a lot of local support for fracking but no one noticed or really cared that Corbyn was there.

I live on top of a fracking site that I loath but even I wish he would stop dicking around with small stuff and actually lead the Labour Party.
actually that’s a lie I wish he would fuck off and let someone competent take over

We’re living in a completely new political environment now, I’m beginning to think there won’t be another majority government in my life time.

The politicians you aren't allowed to hear too often on MSM have been making noises like that for a while. The bottom line is the split has become structural (who remembers the dangers that the UK would begin to acquire a "structural deficit" during austerity ?). No matter what combinations and permutations you play with, when you superimpose peoples voting preferences onto a constituency map and allow for FPTP you can never quite make a majority.

There’s no = there’s not

Sorry distracted by kids

*"There are not enough Left Remainers"

Labour are losing votes not just because of Corbyn, but because
at least 70% of their usual voters are Remainers.*

Put another way. 30% of Labour "usual voters" (whoever they are (?)) are Lexiters. Labour do not and never have had a "natural" majority - as is often pointed out on these threads. They cannot afford to ignore almost 1/3 of their base, especially when its views on this issue are in line with the majority in 400 of 650 seats.

Therewillbeadequatefood fracking is precisely the sort of wedge issue Corbyn should be using to win over centre ground voters. This is the main reason SNP came out against it. Nimbys are not Labour / SNP but they will be if you protect their property by not fracking.

It appears the UK's PM won't take questions from the NI, Welsh or Scottish media. Y'know, England's regions. Probably because it would be shown up that he doesn't have any answers. So, he bs's away.

from Paul McGrade.

An excellent, fair thread on the backstop from @DavidHenigUK Worth distinguishing arguments that its 'anti-democratic' because: a) NI would be a rule taker - yes, but consulted, as others such as Norway are; b) DUP oppose - no, backstop has majority support in NI

twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1156469384652701697

The 70% are hardly about to start voting Boris Tory though but the 30% might - especially if he starts putting his money where his mouth is not just on Brexit but also on education, policing, Northern powerhouse, social care.