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Westminstenders: One Pepperoni Pizza Please. And a Milkshake To Go.

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RedToothBrush · 22/05/2019 21:03

On the Eve of the EU Elections that we never met to happen, and we don't know what the next hour next mind day might bring.

Farage is enjoying the theatre of milkshakes. It means he gets attention and gets to play the victim. And avoid talking about his dodgy friends and even dodgier financing. The Brexit Party are polling so highly its possible he could be PM. And boy does he know it. The temptation is there and its too much to resist.

May has refused to resign so far tonight after a day of asking her to. The 1922 Committee refused to change the rules to help oust her - possibly because they don't want the next PM to be beset with challenges to the leadership at the drop of a hat. Graham Brady is seeing her on Friday... The ERG are not happy bunnies.

May is still apparently planning to plough on with the WAB with a referendum possibly attached. Though this remains to be seen.

Meanwhile Leadsom has just quit the Cabinet. She was one of the Brexit 'Pizza Club'. Rumours are this might be the Cabinet withdrawing support for her. Though Gove has said he doesn't intend to resign (tonight at least).

Rumour is that May's senior staff have abandoned her to let her make the decision to go. And rumours are that when Leadsom rang May to tell her she was leaving cabinet, May didn't tell her senior staff. This comes two weeks after rumours where that Phillip May was at the point of telling her it was time to resign. The rumours of course may be just that, rumours but it's hard to see how or why anyone would tell her to carry on now.

And so tomorrow. Who would vote for this utter shower of shit? Even if you were the most loyal of Tories?

The thing tomorrow is to get the remain vote out. It doesn't matter ultimately what people vote for. Every vote cast for remain keeps the Brexit Party popular vote down. Even if it doesn't win seats. And that is psychologically important.

Tomorrow make sure EVERYONE you know who is anti brexit party votes. More so if they are a Remainer voting for a Remain party, but also if they are solid Labour or the rarest of things, a true blue.

It MATTERS. Narratives will be set.

If you are not sure if you are registered to vote, please TRY ANYWAY. The worst case is you are turned away and have lost 20 mins of your life. But you might also be able to vote and that might change the course of events.

Talk to people tomorrow. Remind them. Make sure it's about preventing a hard right foothold. Apathy will destroy our futures. Being fed up of politicians so refusing to vote is actively shooting yourself in the face.

Who am I voting for?

Still no idea. But I will vote.

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Peregrina · 23/05/2019 11:47

The accidental disenfranchisement of overseas voters is why I have proxy votes for some family members, just in case the post is slow, or because the said voters don't make it back to the UK in time.

1tisILeClerc · 23/05/2019 11:48

Thank you GaspodeWonderCat, that is how I interpret the VERY SIMPLE position on the signing of the WA.
Yes there is always 'fudge' involved, and there will be plenty surrounding the PD I don't doubt.
With the WA signed the UK can happily implode by itself.

bellinisurge · 23/05/2019 11:48

Pretty sure Liverpool went Remain. As did Manchester- sadly not the outskirts, where I live.

UtterlyPerfectCartoonGiraffe · 23/05/2019 11:49

Voting today after work but already feeling the doom - 2 Brexit Party signs have been put up on lamp posts on my road (which leads to the polling station). At least my neighbourhood does a good kind in sarcastic graffiti. The Conservative signs never last long either!

1tisILeClerc · 23/05/2019 11:49

I posted my vote back the day it arrived which was just over a week ago. Post usually taking 3 or 4 days so it should arrive on time.

Peregrina · 23/05/2019 11:49

PMs used to be members of the HoL, but not since Alec Douglas Home's time - it wasn't seen as being acceptable any more and he was found a safe seat to contest. Not that it did much good, he didn't last long.

Whisky2014 · 23/05/2019 11:50

O don't understand how voting for the brexit party in the EU elections help us to leave the EU. I'll get the feeling leavers think by voting for them in this, that bug changes will be afoot. Surely to be disappointed soon.

Peregrina · 23/05/2019 11:51

Signs on lamposts are almost certainly illegal. Signs can be put up on people's property with their consent. Signs on lamposts therefore can mean that the party concerned can't actually find enough supporters.

BigChocFrenzy · 23/05/2019 11:51

mother "I see no reason whatsoever why the WA cannot be changed"

because the EU have said so repeatedly - No more negotiations until after Brexit
because a new WA could take another 2 years and they still wouldn't know if the HoC would pass it
because all candidates to be the next PM want cake or No Deal - very little support in the HoC for an SM Brexit

The 3 main WA planks - backstop, exit bill, expat rights - would remain whatever future deal we have, including after a No Deal Brexit

Before Brexit, we can modify the PD so long as it doesn't change these 3 planks
however, what is left is not what caused the WA to fail its approval

Random18 · 23/05/2019 11:53

Still not 100% sure who to vote for here 🙈

Tactically it should maybe be Greens (West Mids)
But my heart is saying Lib Dem’s.

One of these times I will make up my mind at booth!

ClarkeMurphy · 23/05/2019 11:55

Pretty sure Liverpool went Remain.

The city did but not the outskirts so similar to Manchester.

UtterlyPerfectCartoonGiraffe · 23/05/2019 11:56

Peregrina that’s interesting! The Lib Dem candidates/ members are usually in attendance near the polling station so they might be out ripping them down. Hopefully they haven’t found many supporters round here then.

Peregrina · 23/05/2019 11:58

that if we have a GE Farage won’t be able to stand as he will be an MEP. He’s number 1 candidate for SE.

Fartage would have to stand down as an MP first. Annaliese Dodds, the current MP for Oxford East was an MEP and stood down, to stand in the GE. Then the next one on the list steps up to take their place as MEP.

Fartage, the milkshake man, would of course, have to get elected. I suppose it's just possible he might do that now: he's failed seven times before, but that was before the Tories went into meltdown.

HazardGhost · 23/05/2019 11:58

I had a wibble earlier over voting... gonna check across all the sites and see if the consensus really is green... but then the phrase "non man" comes to mind.

DP not even dressed yet so have time to ponder a bit more.

Thinking of you stripey and sending huge unmumsnetty hugs Flowers

Dontlickthetrolley · 23/05/2019 12:02

I put my cross in the box chanting the mantra "remain UK I hope you're right"

Quite a few from my street have voted which surprised me, but good on everyone for getting out!

Dontlickthetrolley · 23/05/2019 12:03

I meant Remain Voter Confused

magimedi · 23/05/2019 12:04

Forgot to say that there was a (small) 'bollocks to brexit' sticker on the window of the village hall!

Was that you, OYBBK? Grin

Motheroffourdragons · 23/05/2019 12:14

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prettybird · 23/05/2019 12:15

Would the wee toad man of the Turquoise big Arrow Party have to stand down immediately as an MEP if he stood as an MP in a GE or just if he was elected?

Iirc, he didn't stand down when he has previously run (unsuccessfully Grin) to be an MP Hmm

HazardGhost · 23/05/2019 12:17

Well reading this blew my tiny mind

politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2019/05/22/the-remain-strategy-region-by-region-voting-guide

Sending a national remainer message go Lib dem which was kinda what i thought and was going for but the tactical angles (plural) is different. Greens and lib dems in the WM are within a error margin of each other so while its technically green, lib is also a good choice.

However to minimise brexit party/ukip - vote fucking conservative, over my benefits claiming ass would I ever do that. Lifesaver option, as in likely to lose seat is vote Labour.

Hadn't considered labour an option...

There was me flip flopping over libs and greens...

Runningintothesunset · 23/05/2019 12:17

Not all of Lancashire voted leave Shock It’s just a county that has very distinct (and divided) areas. So my little village is a wonderful bubble of remain. The town 10 minutes away is a leave nightmare that has Brexit party placards everywhere.

I went with Green in the end. I hope it works. Returning officers said it had been steady and busier than the locals

DGRossetti · 23/05/2019 12:20

Just got back from voting (and a bacon/coffee/chicken run @ Lidl Grin)

We went in at 10:30, and DW was #50 through the doors. Tellers said it had been busier than they had expected and as we left 4 more people went in....

Make of it what you will.

prettybird · 23/05/2019 12:20

I'd meant to post earlier about Heseltine but I was amused that the Conservative Party is so inward looking and riven that it even bothered to take way the whip from Heseltine in the HoL Wink

....it's not as if they can "de-select" him: he's there in perpetuity. Confused

Pilcrow · 23/05/2019 12:20

Bellini the Wirral and Sefton (a significant ‘dormitory’ area for Liverpool) voted Remain. That NW coast again...

borntobequiet · 23/05/2019 12:26

Anyone still unsure how to vote should use one of the websites, really, so helpful. OTOH if you are sure, don't change on the advice of the site!
Remain Voter told me if unsure, to vote Green. But I had already made up my mind to vote LD (and have always done so in the past), so I will be doing that.

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