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Westminstenders: One Pepperoni Pizza Please. And a Milkshake To Go.

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RedToothBrush · 22/05/2019 21:03

On the Eve of the EU Elections that we never met to happen, and we don't know what the next hour next mind day might bring.

Farage is enjoying the theatre of milkshakes. It means he gets attention and gets to play the victim. And avoid talking about his dodgy friends and even dodgier financing. The Brexit Party are polling so highly its possible he could be PM. And boy does he know it. The temptation is there and its too much to resist.

May has refused to resign so far tonight after a day of asking her to. The 1922 Committee refused to change the rules to help oust her - possibly because they don't want the next PM to be beset with challenges to the leadership at the drop of a hat. Graham Brady is seeing her on Friday... The ERG are not happy bunnies.

May is still apparently planning to plough on with the WAB with a referendum possibly attached. Though this remains to be seen.

Meanwhile Leadsom has just quit the Cabinet. She was one of the Brexit 'Pizza Club'. Rumours are this might be the Cabinet withdrawing support for her. Though Gove has said he doesn't intend to resign (tonight at least).

Rumour is that May's senior staff have abandoned her to let her make the decision to go. And rumours are that when Leadsom rang May to tell her she was leaving cabinet, May didn't tell her senior staff. This comes two weeks after rumours where that Phillip May was at the point of telling her it was time to resign. The rumours of course may be just that, rumours but it's hard to see how or why anyone would tell her to carry on now.

And so tomorrow. Who would vote for this utter shower of shit? Even if you were the most loyal of Tories?

The thing tomorrow is to get the remain vote out. It doesn't matter ultimately what people vote for. Every vote cast for remain keeps the Brexit Party popular vote down. Even if it doesn't win seats. And that is psychologically important.

Tomorrow make sure EVERYONE you know who is anti brexit party votes. More so if they are a Remainer voting for a Remain party, but also if they are solid Labour or the rarest of things, a true blue.

It MATTERS. Narratives will be set.

If you are not sure if you are registered to vote, please TRY ANYWAY. The worst case is you are turned away and have lost 20 mins of your life. But you might also be able to vote and that might change the course of events.

Talk to people tomorrow. Remind them. Make sure it's about preventing a hard right foothold. Apathy will destroy our futures. Being fed up of politicians so refusing to vote is actively shooting yourself in the face.

Who am I voting for?

Still no idea. But I will vote.

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Calyx72 · 24/05/2019 10:30

Nicola Sturgeon on Twitter

  1. I wish Theresa May well. She and I had profound disagreements - not least on her handling of Brexit and her disregard for Scotland’s interests. However, leadership is tough - especially in these times - and she deserves thanks for her service.
  2. Her departure will not solve the Brexit mess that the Tories have created. Only putting the matter back to the people can do that. Given current circumstances, it also feels deeply wrong for another Tory to be installed in Number 10 without a General Election.
3.The prospect of an even more hardline Brexiteer now becoming PM and threatening a no deal exit is deeply concerning. Added to the experience of the past three years, this makes it all the more important that Scotland is given the choice of becoming an independent country."
Peregrina · 24/05/2019 10:30

I would expect her to stand down as an MP come the next GE. This might be soon. Who knows? I suppose she did well to hang on for almost three years.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 24/05/2019 10:31

I have NO sympathy for her. None.

bookbook · 24/05/2019 10:31

Just watched it .
Sorry no sympathy here - I believe she spouted utter hypocrisy . She tried within her own remit and brought on her downfall .

AutumnCrow · 24/05/2019 10:31

'a country for the many not the few'

If she truly believe that's what she did she's insane

borntobequiet · 24/05/2019 10:33

If only she had stopped after announcing her intention to resign and pointing out that A N Other will also have to try to find some way of reconciling all the different opinions in order to move on...but no, she had to utter untruths about her government's so called achievements, in reality none.
I have so wanted to find things to admire about TM but she has made it difficult.

Peregrina · 24/05/2019 10:33

But she will get to have dinner with Trump as her final act. Lucky her!

fairweathercyclist · 24/05/2019 10:33

Completely agree with Nicola Sturgeon.

TatianaLarina · 24/05/2019 10:34

One would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh at the death of Little Nell.

LouiseCollins28 · 24/05/2019 10:34

Heavens Perigrina! Grin thanks tho.

I have always held the position that of the available options who stood, May, Leadsom, Gove and Johnson, that May was by far the best choice. Actually I'd still rather have had her than any of the others I just named I think, even though she has fallen way short of
expectations. Who knows who comes next?!

AutumnCrow · 24/05/2019 10:35

She's lying about the debt and deficit positio

RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 10:35

I think her speech is designed to poison the well for her successor actually. Her speech will look different in retrospect. Her legacy will be to look that she never had a chance.

Good luck Boris...

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Apileofballyhoo · 24/05/2019 10:36

I actually think her WA was quite good if you actually want to leave. She got out of everything and managed to get a back door customs union for the whole of the UK without actually signing up to a customs union for the whole of the UK. I do realise that she may have passed something with closer ties to the EU and that could be seen as a lack of compromise - but that type of Brexit is pretty much completely pointless. So I do think she got the best WA anyone could possibly get. As Brexity as possible, protecting the GFA, keeping the UK together.

It's just that Leavers want the impossible. I can't see anything changing under a new leader except for going for no deal.

At least she avoided a no deal Brexit on her watch. I think that might be a better legacy than she knows right now.

I did feel sorry for her at the end but a quick thought about her domestic policies nipped that in the bud.

See ya Theresa.

AutumnCrow · 24/05/2019 10:37

Bringing up Grenfell - that's low

1tisILeClerc · 24/05/2019 10:38

Every single day she has been in a position of power in the HO and as PM she had the moral duty to the country to think and act for the country and if she could not see and command a consensus with the majority around her she should have called a stop and review.
She and the HO leader (not sure of precedent) have the 'gift' of life and death of UK citizens and with that comes ultimate responsibility to all.

PostNotInHaste · 24/05/2019 10:38

No pity here. I do accept she’s had a hard time from her party but she took this willingly. The country was hugely divided when she stepped forward and after about a week she poured fuel on the flames and fanned them with her Citizens of Nowhere speech. She lost her majority, was the Queen of U turns and that’s without taking into account her time in the Home Office.

Was depressed to hear this morning that my Friend’s DD who is 20 voted Conservative.

yolofish · 24/05/2019 10:38

Glad I didnt see the tears bit, as that might have made me feel sympathy for her.

I suspect the leadership election will be rather like when no one wants to sit in the front row at a lecture of conference, and eventually someone says "well, SOMEONE'S got to do it...

Littlespaces · 24/05/2019 10:38

It's just that Leavers want the impossible

And we are stuffed as a country until they realise it. It occur to them eventually.

Motheroffourdragons · 24/05/2019 10:39

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RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 10:39

The WA was THE BEST she was ever going to get.

From that point of view, she achieved.

It's expectations of Brexiteers that were off. And unrealistic.

The only way their vision can be achieved is with breaking international trust and relying on trump in an extremely heavy way.

Which is hardly about independence.

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Cherrypi · 24/05/2019 10:39

Nicola Sturgeon pitch perfect as usual. There's something about hearing May trying not to cry and failing that makes me sympathetic. Just found out my temporary boss is a rabid leaver. Please can politics stop being so exciting when I have lots of work to do.

DGRossetti · 24/05/2019 10:40

If the court action against Boris has wheels, he might not be able to stand ...

Coquillage · 24/05/2019 10:40

'It will be for my successor to find consensus where I could not' = 'you've no chance, fuckers'

PowerBadgersUnite · 24/05/2019 10:40

So are we looking at another GE on the horizon? I imagine tories would a rather avoid it as if the locals are anything to go by they will get pummelled.

Apileofballyhoo · 24/05/2019 10:40

I think her speech is designed to poison the well for her successor actually.

Agree, Red. She pretty much said they are all fuckers.

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