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If anyone had told me when I was first elected... that less than a decade later the Government of this country would be pursuing a policy that necessitates the stockpiling of body bags

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StealthPolarBear · 04/04/2019 06:09

Reading the transcript of the debate and this stood out.

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noblegiraffe · 05/04/2019 12:57

Have Kent County Council withdrawn their advice to schools about planning for disruption then, given that it’s now unnecessary?

Also, who trusts the likes of Chris Grayling to run a piss-up in a brewery? How much exactly of this contingency planning is hiring non-existent ferries, that just hasn’t been found out yet?

1tisILeClerc · 05/04/2019 13:06

I was not encourage to be told by a solicitor that solicitors cannot be trusted.
Makes a mockery of the whole system really.
Obviously both 'sides' are exaggerating some things to make their point but it is the leave campaign that went for wholesale lying, and what is worse they persist to this day.

Clavinova · 05/04/2019 13:17

How much exactly of this contingency planning is hiring non-existent ferries, that just hasn’t been found out yet?

Who knows?!!

Seaborne Freight had been in discussions for 12 months with Arklow Shipping - who have a fleet of 55 ships;

www.independent.ie/business/brexit/brexit-claims-irish-government-interfered-in-shipping-deal-dismissed-37802686.html

"Mr Grayling said on Saturday a contract awarded by his department in December to UK company Seaborne Freight had been cancelled, citing a decision by Irish firm Arklow Shipping to "step back from the deal."

"Arklow Shipping is a long-established shipping business"...

"It has operations in its home port in Co Wicklow and in Rotterdam with a fleet of 55 ships.It is understood the company was originally on board to back Seaborne Freight, but had yet to take a formal stake in the venture."

"In a letter to Mr Grayling on January 18 last, the managing director of Arklow Shipping, James A Tyrell, confirmed his company had been involved with Seaborne Freight over the previous 12 months and that it intended to finance the purchase of two vessels to operate a route between Ramsgate and Ostend and to buy a stake in Seaborne."

1tisILeClerc · 05/04/2019 13:29

{"Arklow Shipping is a long-established shipping business"...}
So why was Grayling not dealing with the company that does have ships, rather than some 'mates' who would be buying them in?

Clavinova · 05/04/2019 13:33

Have Kent County Council withdrawn their advice to schools about planning for disruption then, given that it’s now unnecessary?

I don't know - but I've just found this on the local news website (from January - before the extra contingency planning);

Education chiefs downplay Brexit impact on schools

"Ian Watts, area education officer at Kent County Council, said: “We acknowledge that if any schools are affected, the number is likely to be low."

"However, as with all aspects of emergency planning, it is prudent to have awareness of the possibility of heavier traffic and the effect that it may have on the need to manage pupil and staff movement around the external school site in such circumstances."

"Mr Watts said:“At this stage we cannot easily predict the eventual impact of the UK exiting the European Union, but it would be remiss to assume no impact."

Air pollution appears to be an ongoing problem for Kent.

www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/kcc-seeks-to-quell-concerns-over-brexit-impact-on-schools-197522/

Latest online advice for Kent residents - it doesn't sound like they are expecting severe disruption to me:

Brexit travel and transport
"Some communities may experience disruption to local road networks in the event of a no-deal EU exit."

www.kent.gov.uk/about-the-council/britain-leaving-the-european-union/travel-and-transport

FishesaPlenty · 05/04/2019 13:35

Seaborne Freight had been in discussions for 12 months with Arklow Shipping - who have a fleet of 55 ships;

...none of which are RoRo ferries.

bellinisurge · 05/04/2019 13:35

In short, Clavinova thinks it's fiiiiine. So it is.

Mistigri · 05/04/2019 13:36

ex-lawyer

Let us be grateful for small mercies.

FishesaPlenty · 05/04/2019 13:38

"Some communities may experience disruption to local road networks in the event of a no-deal EU exit."

...even after we've converted 2 motorways and an airfield into lorry parks to avoid disruption.

Clavinova · 05/04/2019 13:45

FishesaPlenty
Why don't you email Kent CC and point out the flaws in their plan? Grin

FishesaPlenty · 05/04/2019 14:33

There are no flaws in their plan that I'm aware of. The problem is that you're 'interpreting' their statements as saying something they don't.

They're actually saying that despite months of planning, closing off sections of 2 motorways and converting an airfield into a lorry park they still expect there to be local traffic problems.

You've chosen to interpret that as 'it'll be fine'.

I was at a meeting of SE based hauliers last weekend. Nobody expects it to be 'fine' in the event of no deal.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 05/04/2019 18:19

It's an indication of public opinion

I know it’s an indication of public opinion. But public opinion doesn’t necessarily bear any opinion to facts or what is likely unless all of those 47% have some sort of inside knowledge.

Clavinova · 05/04/2019 21:42

RafaIsTheKingOfClay
But public opinion doesn’t necessarily bear any opinion to facts or what is likely unless all of those 47% have some sort of inside knowledge.

I think you need to listen to the YouTube song posted by BeerandBiscuits

17 million f*ck offs-a song about Brexit

It sums up Project Fear perfectly.

Clavinova · 05/04/2019 21:42

well. Grin

ContinuityError · 05/04/2019 22:55

I prefer Goldie Lookin Chain myself.

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