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Brexit and Poverty In The UK

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DioneTheDiabolist · 30/03/2019 01:07

I am an unemployed single mother. I live in a very deprived area in an inner city. My family are classed as living in Absolute Poverty.ShockSad

I voted Remain because I thought it would be better for me, my DC and my wider family. But I have looked at the Leave stats and it seems that many Leavers also come from poorer backgrounds.

What am I missing? Should I have voted Leave? Why would I be better off Leaving the EU?

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Clavinova · 31/03/2019 11:35

lonelyplanetmum
The EU is essentially a trading bloc.It has limited powers mostly to do with food standards, environment, health and safety and some workers' rights.This is misunderstood by many people.The EU can't dictate to any country how it distributes wealth between citizens.

Although on Reuters this week (26th March);

The EU has sent Austria a “letter of formal notice” - which could be a first step towards legal action against Vienna - ^regarding its decision to cut benefits payments for some children living abroad;

uk.reuters.com/article/uk-austria-politics-childbenefits/austria-rejects-eu-criticism-of-cuts-to-child-benefits-abroad-idUKKCN1R70VV

A nasty right-wing policy no doubt - but the EU clearly do have powers to intervene.

The government said it had written to the EU formally defending the policy.Conservative family minister Juliane Bogner-Strauss told ORF radio that other states has different living costs “so we have different situations”.

Austria borders eight countries, including the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary and Slovenia, where wages are significantly lower.

Also - the EU Commission can impose austerity policies on its member states;

2016: The European Union’s executive Commission has the power to impose fines and to suspend EU funds for countries that run deficits above 3 percent of their gross domestic product and do not take measures to correct their excessive gaps.

Spain and Portugal were found in breach of EU fiscal rules last year, but the Commission has concluded there is no need to sanction them as they have taken sufficient measures to correct their imbalances, Commission vice president Valdis Dombrovskis told a news conference.

“The event that required a proposal by the Commission to suspend parts of the European Structural and Investment Funds is no longer present and there will be no such proposal,” the EU executive said in a note, adding that the sanction procedure will be “held in abeyance”.

uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-deficits-spain-portugal-idUKKBN13B1MW

continuallychargingmyphone · 31/03/2019 11:44

In every game there are winners and losers. Freedom of movement disproportionately impacts on the poorest.

However, I don’t think brexit is anything like as stark as people like to make out. Plenty of middle englanders voted to leave - they just don’t admit it!

CatsinSpace · 31/03/2019 11:52

Surely this goes back to the Conservative voters electing Cameron on his election promise of a referendum?

Very few on here admit to voting Conservative, just like very few people admit to voting Leave! The whole situation is a mess and name-calling and the blame game solves nothing.

I think we are in for turbulent times ahead.

colehawlins · 31/03/2019 11:55

Surely this goes back to the Conservative voters electing Cameron on his election promise of a referendum?

Yep.

continuallychargingmyphone · 31/03/2019 11:58

I don’t think Cameron had an alternative without potentially losing numerous seats to UKIP.

This didn’t become an issue because Cameron made it an issue. It was an issue Cameron had to address.

Camomila · 31/03/2019 13:23

bornfreebutinchains
What buildings isn't Dione allowed in?

Museums? - lots have concessions or are free for locals
Theatres? - again lots of concessions and DC are often taken on school trips
Universities? - DBro and I both went to uni from a HA estate

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