Westminstenders: Flextension

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Just wrote an intro and wiped it. So this is as quick as I can sum up.

EU response is extension to 22nd May if May passes her deal by 29th March

Or an unconditional extension to 12 April which could be extended with a plan and understanding to take part in EU elections.

This isn't what may wanted. It gives her less time and leverage

It opens up the possibility of her being ousted as PM in the next couple of days. Graham Brady asked her to quit on Monday. Remain Cabinet ministers are threatening to quit if May whips a vote to support no deal.

The talk is May has indeed flipped to supporting no deal with many think she's pretty much gone full on Colonel Kurtz.

The EU are in effect supporting parliamentary sovereignty and are being incredibly reasonable.

May now has to decide whether to accept.

The whole situation looks explosive and likely that one half of the cabinet or the other are on the brink of walking. And May's power is so shattered.

However she remains the gatekeeper and as it stands if she's hell bent on no deal, it will be extremely difficult for Parliament to prevent that.

Someone has just started a thread pointing out that it's not necessary to be of voting age to sign the petition. So children could sign if they wanted to, apparently. Interesting...

I suddenly have an urgent need to create email addresses for my primary school kids!

Do you think I should be suggesting tea instead Leclerc ? ( it's just that the Lipton Yellow in my Lerclerc is on the weak side. Perhaps wine would be a compromise...)

We only have one gilet jaune protester left. He has built a tin shack at the side of a roundabout, complete with a letter box, garden chairs and table. Sometimes a few friends join him for a glass or two. I have no idea what they are trying to achieve.

I think that from a Northern Ireland perspective there will a substantial number of voters who are hoping if Brexit occurs then a border poll will be more likely. This is where the DUP have shot themselves in the foot. Their no deal strategy could ultimately lead to the very thing they are most against.

Will some kind person tell me what pmk means, it isn't on the acronym list.

"We only have one gilet jaune protester left. He has built a tin shack at the side of a roundabout, complete with a letter box, garden chairs and table."
Excellent!

2,833,656 signatures....a 100,000 in 40 minutes???? Go go go!

PMK ( plus other derivatives) = place marking

Just plonking this here!

nicola it means Place MarKing.

Thanks to all who have told me what pmk is.

Northern Ireland seems remarkably uninvolved in the petition given how strongly remain they voted - has it not had as much publicity over the Irish Sea?

Why would a Sinn Fein supporter who wanted to be part of Ireland and supports the party’s stance of not sending representatives to Westminster, sign a British government petition seeing as they don't recognise and believe in British rule?

Might that be a factor?

NoWordForFluffy

Of the many things the French do well, tea isn't one of them. Beer is also a bit 'so so' too although some do rise to the occasion.
The Gilets Jaunes around me are mostly elderly people doing 'normal' stuff and as you have to have a jacket in the car anyway, the dashboard is as good a place to put it as the door pocket.
The ones setting fire to Paris and elsewhere are a different breed altogether.

Yup that just about sums it all up Fluffy ...a blow job from a pirhana 🐟

Some People are not that interested in Brexit or the EU are they?
Or just switched off from it all.
( I love mumsnet as I can discuss it with people more knowledgeable then I'll ever be and learn new things)

As a symbol of a protest, but then taking it to extreme measures, a 'hi vis' jacket makes it difficult to go about nefarious deeds in a clandestine manner.
A moderately bright coloured household item in a buttonhole would be more effective for discrete recognition, a toothbrush maybe?

Some People are not that interested in Brexit or the EU are they?

Which is fine, but they should be counted as "remainers" - i.e. happy with the status quo. You can't really be a disengaged leaver now - if you are it's a tacit reversion to remain. After all, a leaver that now "doesn't care" is as much a vote for revoke as for Mays reheated sick of a deal plus Brexit.

news.sky.com/story/christopher-davies-conservative-mp-admits-two-expenses-fraud-charges-11672483
Christopher Davies: Conservative MP admits two expenses fraud charges

By election in Brecon and Radnorshire?

Another Bercow vs Leadsom moment captured here:

www.facebook.com/6622931938/posts/10156608193786939?sfns=vcl

PMK thank you!

Question for the more knowledgeable on here.

The EU have given up on May.
Her party have (mostly) given up on her
Recent polls of the country dream her an embarrassment.

Is there a realistic way to get rid of her? After all, she survived the previous no-confidence vote and even with the 1922 visit, she does not have to leave.

What next?

To be fair to the ' head in sand' brigade even the most political amongst us , the journalists and the ones that bring us the news are confused at times ( I've heard them say it) especially when it's voting time and various amendments are being proposed and so on. You really do have to listen carefully and they usually have people in from both sides as well so the waters do become very muddy.
I've heard every argument going : only because I've taken an interest and I read and listen to the radio that have an interest in this.
some blame labour from years back , some go on about 1975 and that referendum, some just like to blame everyone.
It's easier not to engage at times I suppose. Plus some people have never bothered about politics or even voted in G E.
Don't know whose to blame there!

God I love mnet, it's so wonderful to be able to read and pontificate about Brexshit to my hearts content. I do have a couple of friends in RL who feel exactly the same as me but one of them, although passionate, isn't interested in the factual detail which is frustrating.

Flowerplower you put perfectly how I feel, rung out and so distressed by the whole thing, strangely enough it's the funny little things that set me off, Donald Tusk making a mistake with the date and everyone laughing this morning nearly had me in tears. Thank you everyone for making it much more bearable xx

I will be marching tomorrow again, that's very emotional in its own way .... big love to everyone going ❤️

Yes. The cabinet walk out on May. It would have to be across leave and remain lines and both walk out on her in no confidence. Or you have a mass resignation of the whip on the grounds they would retake the whip if May went.

Messy and no one knows where that might lead, but it would make it extremely difficult for May to carry on.

These would not necessarily trigger a GE cos of the fixed term act, but its possible that it would.

The danger of a GE is why a lot of MPs haven't done anything.

But if May does show her hand as being committed to no deal they might just risk it.

It depends on how they see the threat of Corbyn as PM.