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Why Brexiteers forgot about the border

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NeverTalksToStrangers · 21/03/2019 00:04

www.irishtimes.com/opinion/why-brexiteers-forgot-about-the-border-1.3831635?mode=amp

Interesting and honest read.
We know we were an overlooked afterthought. Oh the irony of the DUP urging people to vote for brexit given that brexit happening will speed up a united ireland and brexit not happening will increase resentment for the union for leavers.

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havingtochangeusernameagain · 21/03/2019 13:01

To be fair residents of Northern Ireland overlooked it too. The vote to remain in Scotland was a lot more emphatic than in NI.

However, all that said, why oh why was this not raised when the referendum legislation was being discussed? Way before the referendum itself? Or before Art 50 was triggered?

I found it disgusting and still do, that Art 50 was triggered after the NI Assembly collapsed. How can you start something like Brexit when you don't have a functioning government in a part of your country?

MockerstheFeManist · 21/03/2019 14:19

Sinn Fein were the dog that didn't bark. They chose not to mobilise their support for Remain, and now it is moot whether they think No Deal will work to their advantage.

The DUP monopoly of NI party represention at Westminster has proved crucial. A few SDLP and Alliance MPs, or SF taking thier seats, and we might not be where we are.

NeverTalksToStrangers · 21/03/2019 19:35

By and large, the only Muppets in NI who voted for this shitshow did so because the DUP told them to. Like actual turkeys voting for Christmas. There was a resounding remain vote in much of NI, particularly in nationalist areas.

I wouldn't say Sinn Fein are overly anti-europe as such, their electorate certainly aren't. Their only priority is a UI and they treated the referendum as something the Brits were doing and therefore not concerning. Very low turn out in west belfast as a result. They have been talking about a border poll ever since.

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LeesPostersAreInFrames · 22/03/2019 11:40

Quite a lot of turkeys voted for Christmas, all over the uk. Farmers, fisheries, towns which rely on immigrant labour.

When Scotland voted on independence, they got a 670 page document on what it would mean, and all parts of it were debated thoroughly. I'm still angry that we had nothing like that for the brexshit vote, just lies and accusations and fearmongering. I took part in some market research where we were shown real adverts that were run during the campaigns - a pulled grenade with map of Turkey superimposed over the UK, implying that Turkey would (be able to) join the EU and all of it's population would come to the uk like a ticking timebomb. I'm angry that we voted on propaganda not a well thought through and debated plan.

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