Do you think EU citizens born here should be treated differently?

[Nuvanewname]

If they have never lived elsewhere especially?
Or should they go through the same process as people who arrived here over the past few years?

I’m jealous of every EU citizen

I think we should treat EU citizenship like national citizenship and There should be a proper reason that I am expected to lose it. No one who has EU citizenship should lose it without either their consent, or a very pressing legal reason (not Brexit). I'm being striped of it because of a non-binding, illegal opinion poll.

I'd like to keep it.

Maybe if they live in the EU Scafell but I don't think things feel very nice or secure for many in Britain at the moment, especially those who only know here and don't know any other life.

OP, EU citizens born here are automatically British if one of their patents was settled with permanent residence at the time of their birth, or they can be registered as British citizens after their 10th birthday if they've always lived in the UK.

*parents

Children of E.U. immigrants born here from parents that are settled (aka can prove they’ve been here 5 years, with a max of 90 days/year out of the country) are already by default U.K. citizens. And I am aware of the home office having used discretionary powers with granting citizenship also in cases of siblings (ie- one was legally a citizen, the sibling missed out by a matter of months, they both got the U.K. citizenship). That’s much more generous than other E.U. countries where you need to have a parent of the “right” nationality. Jus sanguinis vs jus soli. There’s clearly loads of kids that don’t fall into this category and need to go through the process of naturalisation, and that’s quite expensive, but not too complicated in many cases.

Yeah, my thinking is similar to songs which is why I’m jealous.

I'm not sure Songs I'm finding things very difficult. I have tried a couple of different avenues, and there is always some minor detail that means I'm not eligible. I've given up now and will just wait til we leave and see what I'm instructed to do then.

Honestly, I have felt scared to ask this, because I know lots of people are angry at EU citizens at the moment. Lots aren't of course, I know. But just wanted to know what British people in general thought about these situations.

The govt has shit track record with treating people wrongly / unethically / illegally round this stuff. Look at the windrush it's disgusting what they did to those people.

I a similar vein I was v v angry about this story - women who came from Italy to work in mills in the 1950s, at our invitation:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-46836957

Loads of stories in the papers as well with people that I would have thought were fine to be here and british etc but turns out not. I was really surprised that people born here aren't necessarily british not sure when that changed.

Naturalisation can be done as an individual or a family, and you can get your kids into your application, it “only” takes time and money, but in my experience it wasn’t a difficult process. Granted, we always lived in 2 boroughs so getting proof of residence took only asking 2 councils to send us a copy of the history of council tax payments. People that move a lot or don’t have permanent contracts might find it harder on the paperwork side.

Oh sorry OP

You were born here to eu parents in my view 100% you are british but the rules may well say something different.

I am finding out so much that is making me v unhappy with the way this country operates. Just so much awful stuff all the time, with perfectly nice ordinary normal people who contrribute getting letters out of the blue and stuff.

I've been here since I was 5 and DBro was 2, it does feel odd that im treated as an immigrant.

With hindsight I could have naturalised but £1000+ is a lot of money and up to 2016 there wasn't any need to.

didn't the govt destroy loads of peoples documentation

and then tell them to fuck off "home"

i think it was windrush

they are not reasonable or fair

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/17/home-office-destroyed-windrush-landing-cards-says-ex-staffer

not fair reasonable or anything

i have no reason to think they have changed their tune lately

The bit that I’d be scary about is now university fees. Currently, if you’re a E.U. National you pay the same 9250£/y as a Brit. Non EU can pay 30k or more. Next year the only university I’ve checked (imperial) writes that they’ll apply U.K. fees to any E.U. student that can prove its already in the system (aka did at least the last 3 years of secondary school in the U.K.), which makes sense. But...what if the rules change? What’s the government power in applying rules to these institution? I frankly don’t think unis are that keen to charge 30k because they know very simply the E.U. nationals will NOT go there. For that amount of money you seriously think twice....but...

Yes, with my heart, because I'm a Remainer and I'm furious I'll no longer be an EU citizen.

No, with my head, because I work in immigration and I see the parallels here with the Windrush generation, many of whom were Citizens of the UK and Colonies until their countries voted to become independent. They ceased to be CUKCs when this happened, and took on the new nationality, e.g. they became Jamaican and lost the connection to the UK.

Leaving aside whether or not you agree with that, the UK voted to leave and the consequence of that is we cease to be EU citizens.

As a British citizen, surely I am currently and automatically an EU citizen too? Sadly, this may no longer be the case quite soon. The whole thing is a divisive, shameful shambles.

EU naturalised Brit here. I did have to pay £2k fees (+ various other fees so closer to 2.5) to naturalise DS who arrived at 8months old... DD could be registered. DD2 is a Brit.

No, not at all. Why should they?

Children of E.U. immigrants born here from parents that are settled (aka can prove they’ve been here 5 years, with a max of 90 days/year out of the country) are already by default U.K. citizens.

This.

I think we should treat EU citizenship like national citizenship and There should be a proper reason that I am expected to lose it. No one who has EU citizenship should lose it without either their consent, or a very pressing legal reason (not Brexit). I'm being striped of it because of a non-binding, illegal opinion poll.

I couldn't agree more. Let those who wish to give up their EU citizenship do so. Those who want to remain should not be stripped of it.