UK produced food/goods/medicines

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Just thinking today about how UK produced items will be affected.

I live in the North West and much to my embarrassment I have no idea of the route things take to get to the shops local to me

I'm anticipating a significant rise in prices but will there be supply issues for things from the UK?

I've checked with the pharmacist today and all my medication is made here which is reassuring. I can't imagine the worry for insulin dependent diabetics.

Ok, Waitrose, Tesco, and Asda have distribution centres further north or north west from me. Thanks google. I wonder if they'll be subjected to a knock on effect though.

I've checked with the pharmacist today and all my medication is made here

That doesn't necessarily mean the ingredients used to make it are made here. Probably no need to worry though.

Thing is though, even if something is manufactured here the raw ingredients may well be imported.

I was looking at the origins of products when shopping last week. Masses of stuff is imported. Even things like tampons are made abroad - Tampax in Hungary, Lillets in Taiwan, Tesco own brand in Germany.

Crap. Hadn't thought of that.

Although food and other items are produced here, the machinery used to produce or process these may be made elsewhere, the packaging may be made elsewhere , etc

Yup. I work in a factory and our ingredients come from all over the world (lots from France/ Germany/ Italy/ Netherlands) and also the packaging materials.

I don't think it'd take much to affect production when it all arrives on site ' just in time'.

We fairly regularly have to change production plans a bit because ingredients or materials are late or not of correct quality.

There was a piece on breakfast news the other day about a whisky distillery in scotland. They said their production would be affected because of items they need to bottle the product which come from europe.

I believe what the Made in UK really means is that the last substantive change was done here.

E.G. the drug mix was done in Holland, shipped here and uk made the actually pills.

It doesn't mean anything like the whole manufacturing process was done here.

There are lots home produced food ...we won't starve but just like in the war we will have to adjust to less variety ...and grow in our own in gardens too if it's more than a few months supply.

As a child I was lucky to see fruit like oranges... thought it was a right treat to get one in my Xmas stocking... so apples, pears and hedgerow fruits like brambles will have to

However.... just like in years past before EU and even direct war with parts of Europe...we can forgre links with loads of other nations. It might be sticky for a bit but there are many more options now ...

People might have to look to the knowledge and experience to the often berated senior generations but Britain has survived before lol.

There will other manufacturing , business , medical issues for sure and that will be devastating if or when it happens. We will have to toughen up and adapt ...let's hope not but .

It's the whole supply chain that's the problem. Even if they're made here, they'll probably have ingredients, packaging, etc etc from the EU.

"We have to toughen up"? Toughen up and accept kids with nutritional deficiencies, lack of medicines etc? All because of a self inflicted crisis? It's 2019 and we're not at war, this is utter nonsense.

There isn't actually lots of home grown food. we do not produce enough to feed the population.

particularly not in bloody March

,tazzle22. Nonsense. I have no desire to grow my own bloody turnips and sit around a coal fire clutching my blue passport. I am used to a great choice of food from all over the world and really resent the possibility of this being taken from me even in the short term, just because some people wish to return to the mythical good old days pre EU.

Also, even if something is produced here, there may well be shortages if an alternative product is difficult to get in from abroad. I saw on another thread someone saying "Well if I can't get Italian pasta, I'll eat British potatoes instead" - but if even a small proportion of 60 million people make that same decision, there will not be nearly enough British potatoes to go round (And we can't grow them in time as they'd need to have been in the ground weeks ago).

Another example: say (and I'm making this up), Boots sanitary towels are British made, from British components, but all the Bodyform and Carefree come in from abroad - when they can't get their deliveries over from Europe, there will be a run on the only ones available and very quickly Boots will have none at all.
Supply chains are very complicated things and anyone advocating a no-deal Brexit needs to do some serious homework before spouting off. I am seriously worried for the next 12-24 months in this country.

Ok... I see your points .. but my point is that if it's being inflicted on us and we cant change it we HAVE to deal with it ... just like in war.... we would have no choice. so what can we do. ?

Given our basic need for food we would have to grow or manufacture more or get creative / tighten our belts..... just as was done in the war. We used to import loads before then and if needs be we would have to do so again with different countries supplying them .

Did not say we would have to produce ALL our food just more or different... and that we can trade with other countries (unlike the war when any deliveries were shot down or torpedoed whenever possible.

No it would not deal with the immediate right now but that was not the OP question...it was will there be issues . Yes if it comes to pass we are no longer part of EU.... or if people people continue to stockpile ... then yes there will be weeks or longer of short supply.

The question was how will UK goods be affected... so i answered with an opinion that was different...and unless you are older than me and remember the last major time we have had significant disruption to supplies into the UK ( or even the bread strikes , three day working week , miners strikes,.....) then maybe your opinion is not one that comes from practical experience.

Yes it's 2019.... but that's a continual cry whatever year as we always view our present as an improvement. No the things you say are not acceptable... but if there is no choice for whatever reason then if we don't want to go back to that then we have to do something. I never said it was Ok but the principles are just the same.

And if you are so concerned about March.... the referendum was quite some time ago

Basically anything you buy in the supermarket is likely to have have some ingredients or packaging originating outside the UK.

The same goes for pharmaceuticals.

I live in the south east and most of the ingredients, packaging, raw materials etc pass by on lorries a mile from my door every day. Anything that slows the passage of those lorries has the potential to affect every single thing you buy.

Even farmed and grown food need fertilizers, sprays, feed, etc, to produce as much as we do in the ways that we do. We may make some of those things here, but again, raw materials will be from outside the UK.

We cannot feed over 50 million people on allotment produce.

I think 2019 is mentioned because we now live in a world of interconnectivity. We can jump on a cheap flight and be in another country in an hour, all our produce and goods raw ingredients come from all over the EU, many diseases have been eradicated. To suddenly and drastically cut ourselves off from this is insanity and self immolation as a country. As a country people won't accept it and will riot,without a doubt.