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Stockpiling

98 replies

Undercoverbanana · 21/01/2019 07:22

I’m going to stockpile.

I hope it won’t be needed, but I’m doing it anyway.

Here’s my list. What am I missing?

Matches
Batteries
Candles
Lightbulbs
Toilet rolls
Basic medications
First aid supplies
Antiseptic
Soap bars
Shampoo bars
Washing up liquid
Laundry liquid
Cleaning cloths and sponges

Tins of:
Chopped tomatoes
Kidney beans
Cannelloni beans
Chick peas
Soups
Various veg
Various fruits

Rice
Pasta
Couscous
Dried herbs and spices
Long life milk
Tea

I have a well equipped tool kit.

What am I missing.

This is not intended to be a thread about the rights and wrongs of Brexit or whether there will be shortages.

I just wondered what I should have IF there were shortages.

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Jackshouse · 21/01/2019 07:24

I have created a two week meal plan. And I am going to get in all the ingredients in for that *3. I’m planning on electricity continuing but assuming I will need to freeze bread, milk get in long life milk and tinned and frozen veg.

Elllicam · 21/01/2019 07:29

I’ve added honey, oats, tuna, dried mash, flour, sugar, self raising flour, yeast, chilli seasoning, curry seasoning. I’ve tried in general to buy things we will eventually use and that can make meals. So I can make an oat bake for breakfast with oats, milk and tinned fruit, we can have chilli or curry with beans and (frozen) veg. I do have tinned veg and tinned ratatouille too. Chickpeas are nice roasted in honey.

nuttynutjob · 21/01/2019 07:44

Anything that is imported. Look into the packaging of the products you use to give you an idea.

  • tea, coffee
  • bananas can be frozen
  • frozen vegetables (assuming there is no interruptions in electricity)
  • torch light/ wind up and battery
  • olive oil

However, it gets more complex if we look into the distribution system (EU farm workers, EU vets in abbatoir).

Think of the UK food and drink exports, if there is no movement (no deal) then there will be glut of these in the market. Whiskey, beer, cheese, salmon, lamb/sheep

The Mumsnet Preppers Thread and the 48% Preppers Facebook group are good sources of information.

bellinisurge · 21/01/2019 07:54

Looks like a good list although I would also suggest factoring treats/snacks/tea or coffee into what you do. Thankfully there are loads of great tips on MN with threads aplenty on this topic. Here's an example

To be surprised that some friends are buying extra food because of Brexit? part 2 http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/3479764-To-be-surprised-that-some-friends-are-buying-extra-food-because-of-Brexit-part-2

My general suggestion (I'm a prepper) is, don't go mad with your budget. If nothing else, imagine you are snowed in for three days. What do you and your family actually want to eat - look at freezer friendly/shelf stable versions of that. Think about toothpaste, soap, sanpro etc. Think about pets if you have them. Think about entertainment for your family because it can be dull.
I say three days because that isn't overwhelming and gives you chance to look at your local situation without worrying about getting loo roll in.

Do more if you want and can manage - loads of tips on Preppers topic- but don't do less.

Be prepared for whiny posts from people who think it's unpatriotic scaremongering, by the way. They've started popping up again.

thebabysmellsofpooagain · 21/01/2019 08:01

Bin bags
Cleaning products (home and personal!)
Tea, coffee & sugar
Pasta, rice, tinned veg

I have a small DC and I usually keep a few cartons of Aptamil 3 for emergencies, but I will be buying some powdered formula in case of issues with milk. Also, Boots currently have a baby event on with a good deal online on nappies so have stocked up on them.

Doesn't hurt to be prepared, and if Brexit doesn't fuck us over, I'm sure the weather will at some point!

Jackshouse · 21/01/2019 08:23

I also only buying things that I would normally eat anyway.

thebabysmellsofpooagain · 21/01/2019 08:30

@Jackshouse I'm not buying anything I don't use, just stockpiling stuff that I do!

Jackshouse · 21/01/2019 08:41

thebabysmellsofpooagain I’m sure you are. I was just making a general comment. Smile

I am unsure about ordering more pull ups as my DD only wears them for bed and I don’t think she will be in them much longer.

thebabysmellsofpooagain · 21/01/2019 08:55

@Jackshouse - sorry, wasn't having a pop, just stating I'm not just buying loads of random stuff that won't get used!

If DD only has pull ups at night, you could just get one small pack to be on the safe side?

cloudtree · 21/01/2019 09:07

I don't think there would be a glut of anything in the market if there is a no deal. We are a net importer of food.

If there is a deal then whilst economics in normal times might indicate that prices on some things might go down a bit initially, the reality is that demand will increase and that would quickly push prices the other way. Plus you're reliant on retailers passing on lower prices. Plus any reduction on certain items is likely to be offset massively by the extra cost of imported items. (Fuck off DM)

If you can afford to do it then I can't see any downside to stocking up.

Undercoverbanana · 21/01/2019 09:08

Oh - I should have said:

We don’t eat meat or fish so won’t be thinking about that.

No children here - I’m 50!!! DCs prepping in their own homes!

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bellinisurge · 21/01/2019 09:36

I'm mid 50s and I have a tween.

TheWoollybacksWife · 21/01/2019 09:51

Breakfast cereal
Butter (can be frozen)
Jam/marmalade if you eat it
Stock cubes
Sugar
Salt
Flour and yeast to make bread or some bread mix
Flour for cakes/crumbles
Custard powder or readymade
Kitchen roll

onalongsabbatical · 21/01/2019 10:08

The Mumsnet Preppers Thread and the 48% Preppers Facebook group are good sources of information. Just echoing this. Everything you could possibly want to know, talk about, think about, in relation to prepping can be done/found in both of these places. And thanks, you've reminded me to review my list this morning! Smile

Juells · 21/01/2019 10:19

I've stocked up on tins of tomatoes, pasta, rice, anchovies, soap, face cream, toilet paper, various beans, toothpaste. I'm in Ireland, all of those come from either UK or from Europe via England and Wales. :(

Bread, veg and dairy products are all sourced locally already, so no need to worry about those basics unless fuel supplies collapse.

Undercoverbanana · 21/01/2019 10:57

Thanks for all the advice.

I’m really most worried about my daughter’s epilepsy medication and have begged her to speak to her pharmacy as a matter of urgency.

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7Days · 21/01/2019 11:04

Juells I'm in Ireland too and I hadn't even thought.
Has the govt been advising us to or is this your own preparations?

bellinisurge · 21/01/2019 11:04

Op, I'm fairly confident as a prepper and as someone who had epilepsy as a teen, that the government will ensure these meds will be available. But speak to the gp as well as the pharmacist for reassurance and to get the issue up there for important consideration.

bellinisurge · 21/01/2019 11:07

@7Days , the UK government has been utterly silent on the subject. It was supposed to publish something last Tuesday but that didn't happen.
I have no idea if the Irish government is but given that it is generally handling this a million times better, it's more likely to say so.

Undercoverbanana · 21/01/2019 11:10

Bellinisurge - her medication is quite rare and I’ve heard that the government are only stockpiling commonly used medication. As an epileptic, you will know that it is vital to stick to the right medication with epilepsy. She has been seizure free for nearly 5 years and if this fucking Brexshit thing messes her up I will be beyond angry (and never speak to my elderly Brexshitter father again).

Can you tell that this is my main worry? 😁

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Juells · 21/01/2019 11:16

7Days
Juells I'm in Ireland too and I hadn't even thought.
Has the govt been advising us to or is this your own preparations?

Government is probably hoping that the Brexitbuster ships will sort the problem, but I can't see how they'll be able to handle all those trucks that now come across England and Wales. So many things come in from the continent, or from the UK, that there's bound to be problems. I shop in Tesco mostly, what's going to happen in April? A lot of Lidl and Aldi stuff comes from Europe. I'm hoping there will be some kind of resolution found, but better safe than sorry.

Oh, antiperspirant is another thing I've stocked up on - my Brexit shelf is in my line of sight at the moment Grin I think I have about two month's worth of the things that aren't produced here, whatever I can think of anyway. Even washing up liquid and laundry detergent comes in from the UK. Hermesetas, the more you start thinking about it, the more things will be in short supply.

bellinisurge · 21/01/2019 11:22

@Undercoverbanana , totally get your concern. Being seizure free is so important. Again suggest speak to GP as well as pharmacist.

nuttynutjob · 21/01/2019 12:04

Cloud, you're correct that we import our food.

UK exports some food and drinks product such as whiskey,salmon, sheep etc. There is a report that the government has made plans to slaughter sheep mid transit in the event of No Deal.

Also, a faqtard from The Times have written an article about the prepping threads in Mumsnet.

DoodleLab · 21/01/2019 12:08

Journos fuck off

Think about what you like to eat. Look at your cupboards, you old till receipts and your old meal plans. What would your meal plan be if you were off camping or were snowed in for a few days?

Journos fuck off

Look to buy shelf stable versions of that. So eg tinned mackerel instead of fresh, tinned or long life sachet of chilli con carne instead of home cooked, UHT/evaporated milk instead of fresh.

Journos fuck off

What are your dietary preferences/restrictions? Work around those. For example I’m pretty much Keto, but happy to occasionally chuck some beans in a chilli or sliced potato on a hotpot. I would work in more carbs in a crunch situation though.

Journos fuck off

Make sure you cover the nutritional bases - protein and unprocessed healthy fat (butter, ghee, olive oil, coconut, oily fish etc). Full spectrum of amino acids if you are veggie. Glucose/starch is a useful fuel. Beware of sugar in the context of food shortages beyond a small morale boosting treat, it can lead to metabolic dysregulation and health issues (longer term scale… Venezuela has a terrible problem with metabolic illness and obesity despite appalling food shortages. No, Brexit shortages won’t “solve the obesity crisis” as I’ve seen mentioned on here). Vitamins and minerals. So good quality meat/pate/fish, frozen or tinned vegetables, tinned fruit in water or light juice (not syrup). Vitamin D, take a high strength supplement and/or regularly get a good 10 - 20 mins of noonday sun from April to September. An A - Z multi is a useful insurance policy.

Journos fuck off

Have various options to fall back on, build in resilience. So if the power goes off for more than 12 hours, your chicken kievs, meat balls and ice cream in the freezer will be toast. Solid joints of meat are probably ok up to 24 hours, as long as you don’t open the door. We had a 20 hr cut last summer and it was fine. If mice get your flour/pasta then you also have tins (get mousetraps!). Don’t forget cooking methods. If the gas or electric goes off, do you have an alternative cooking method? Camping stove (USE OUTSIDE DUE TO CARBON MONOXIDE HIGH RISK!), gas barbeque, kelly kettle cook set, solar oven etc etc. If your main kettle is electric, do you have a gas stove kettle (if you have a gas hob) in case the electric goes off?

Journos fuck off

Think of prepping in “tiers”, some of which will be in use along side each other, depending on your lifestyle, household set up, assessment of risk etc.

So you’d have a fridge stocked up with your usual amount of fresh food.

A full freezer. Don’t forget you can freeze things like butter and cheese.

A well stocked pantry with the usual things you like to eat, but extended to the timescale you expect disruption to possibly last.

A second pantry cupboard with tins & other long life items, that are lower preference but useful fall backs. So tinned chilli, macaroni cheese, evaporated milk, spam etc.

Ultra long term, you’d get Huel or MREs, or look at homesteading… vegetable and fruit growing and/or lifestock - hens, backyard pig etc.

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Water supply disruption - have the means to filter and treat water. Filtration bag, boiling, water purification tablets etc. Water containers.

Power disruption - power banks for mobile phones/gadgets, spare batteries, battery powered lamps, USB light bulbs, torches, solar/hand cranked charger, wind up or solar radio.

Fuel shortages - well maintained bike and panniers. Don’t forget the roads will be safer without heavy traffic so it will be a viable option!

Safety, health and wellbeing - first aid kit, fire blanket/extinguisher, OTC basic meds, prescription meds, home security, first aid manual or ideally training, home medical encyclopedia, herbal medicine book.

Also don't forget basic toiletries and household stuff - soap, clothes detergent, dish detergent, deodorant, bin bags, toothpaste etc.

Journos fuck off

cloudtree · 21/01/2019 12:18

I discovered yesterday that Beanfeast still exists. Who knew! I thought it had died off in the 1980s. Fuck off DM. It's £1 a pack in tesco and Asda. Lightweight and small but one pack makes "bolognese" (bolognese flavoured soya mince) for two and will last for a very very long time. Its an awful lot cheaper than most MREs Fuck off DM.

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