Are you afraid? Brexit.

[Puddelchen]

I feel very uneasy about what the future holds for us after Brexit but am I just overreacting? Can it really be so terrible? Why is no one around me talking about this in real life, you would think it would be a hot topic.

Really sad about it.
I’m not scared but I know that once it happens, the fear will kick in if reality bites hard. I’m definitely not naive about. Definitely worried. Definitely troubled. And although we don’t talk about it IRL with most people, the negative, oppressive, unknown permeates the whole atmosphere, I find. You can feel it all around. People feel uneasy, uncertain. And we’re too intelligent to be spoon fed Keep Calm and Carry On Scoffing Down Propagandist Bullshit. We’re not that kind of society anymore, thank God. But we’re powerless to what’s coming our way. Hopefully it’ll be more ok than we fear. Time will tell. I’m pissed off about Brexit beyond words.

Yes I am afraid OP. I live in a very deprived areas of NI, I know better than to think our politicians give a fuck about us.

Yeah it’s all great to be told ‘eventually, in like 2 generations, Brexit will pay off big time!’

I’ll pop back from the dead and bring my Union Jack bunting and sparklers.

Leaving by accepting the WA does have a greater merit that fewer people will die unnecessarily.
Once the WA is signed the UK has the option of several years to pull out gradually, but if it gets it's arse into gear it can leave fully quicker than the proposed transition period. Thus the UK can regulate the amount of pain it will feel.

it is incredible to me that in the eyes of the electorate, any pain is with if if it means foreigners will suffer just a bit more. It certainly makes it difficult to empathise.

I live next to the border between NI and Republic. Does that mean (in the event of no deal) I wake up in March and I'm presented with border guards and need my passport to go the shops?

I’m scared.

No

But the Government is now digging its heels in WRT the backstop which is part of the WA.

That's a gamechanger now. And dangerous manouevering too.

But it is all a joke. I doubt anyone knows what's ahead.

Should revoke A50 and start again. I bet the majority would sigh with relief, and those who are disgruntled can don their yellow jackets.

Do you think there will be a second referendum? I think there needs to be

I am worried to the point of almost wishing people 'good luck' in my Christmas cards next to the Happy New Year bit..

I’m scared, but I have a DH who works in a very niche essential service & I can see some of the potential effects there.
I’m just trying to make sure I can ease us, as a family, into any sort of situation that might arise. Making sure we have stores of food & medicines etc.
I lurk on these threads, @bellinisurge has really helped me to sensibly prep.( Thank you!) I’m trying to renew passports & make sure all dentists appointments are up to date etc.

There isn’t going to be another referendum

We are strapped to the seat of a speeding mini, drawing ever nearer to the cliff edge

I doubt there will be another referendum either.

So hopefully it will be either the WA or withdrawal of A50. My preference is for revocation of A50.

I am hopeful that there are many in Parliament who have half a brain and realise that No Deal is not on.

Not even a little bit. DH has average paid job, I work PT so low income. Both of our jobs would be unaffected. We’ve struggled financially for years but we’ve survived, as we have through all the other shit life has thrown at us. I think it’s highly unlikely that millions of people with life-threatening diseases will have NO medication, I would hope that an alternative would be given. I’ll wait and see what happens before I start worrying.

But Chocolate85, it is all so unnecessary, especially when we don't know what the advantages of leaving will be, do we?

And although we don’t talk about it IRL with most people, the negative, oppressive, unknown permeates the whole atmosphere, I find. You can feel it all around. People feel uneasy, uncertain. And we’re too intelligent to be spoon fed.

This. ^^

I’m terrified - I’m on medication that cannot just be stopped without causing lifelong problems/ possible death. Even changing brands can affect me. The pharmacist I use is already having trouble getting my medication but just mumbled when I asked why and drs won’t prescribe more as a potential back up as they are too expensive/ there’s no need. I wonder if Brexit will feature as a reason on any death certificates.

joangray38
Sorry to hear your situation.
Be a bit proactive, write to your MP and say that you are dependent on meds and that to ensure continued supply that the MP should either push for the WA or to rvoke and remain in the EU.

Those of you who have mentioned contingency planning at work, can you say any more about what the planning involves for no deal? How bad it will be?

I've been lurking on the Brexit forum but haven't posted so far. Yes, I'm very worried. Nobody I know (apart from my Dad who moved to France) seems to get the gravity of what we are potentially facing.

I also depend on medication for a serious mental health condition and it's managed by four different medications. These basically keep me functional and sane.

Weirdly when I try to talk about what a shitstorm Brexit is and about prepping to friends and family they all keep asking me if I've stopped taking my meds, like I'm the crazy one.

I'm concerned about the upheaval and food/fuel/medicine shortages that might occur if we crash out with no deal. I'm a bit afraid of the potential for civil unrest and yobbish behaviour, if those shortages happen, or if a second referendum is called which I think might just stir things up and divide the country even more.
Apparently most shops operate on a "just in time" basis and usually only carry about 3 days' worth of stock. So, I aim to prep by buying around 2 weeks of food supplies, plus a large supply of toilet rolls and toiletries, along with basic meds and bottled water. Also, it might be an idea to make sure the car has a full tank of fuel and to get any dental or medical problems sorted before Brexit. That way, if riots and panic occur, we can avoid going out during the worst of it. In a WROL (without rule of law) situation, the longer you can barricade yourself in, the better.

I think there will be upheaval, however things are handled with Brexit, but it's impossible to foresee every problem that might occur. I am hopeful that once we have left the EU, we can use some of the money that is eventually saved (once we've paid our exit fee) to subsidise our own farmers and encourage more people to go into the UK farming industry. It would be great to be less reliant on food imports. Also, it would be good to be able to control immigration, because we already have a housing shortage and our NHS and social services are stretched to breaking point, so it does seem sensible to put the brakes on immigration, which won't happen if we stay in the EU. So, that is what I hope for, although I think the next few months will be very difficult. I just hope the ultimate gains will outweigh the short term problems, but even the experts can't seem to make up their minds how bad things could get, so all we can do is prepare for the worst while hoping for a good outcome, eventually.

Defenbaker, I'm also worried about potential civil unrest, although I live in a rural area so that probably wouldn't be as much of an issue.

However, the snow last year caused enough of a shortage in the local shops, so I can only imagine what might happen if we crash out with a no deal. I've been sneakily stocking up on my medications by ordering slightly in advance each month.

Your post reminded me that I need to buy a load more toilet papaer just in case!

In the medium term inflation is going to be an issue, as is government funding. For anyone who can afford to save money without needing to access it for a year or so, look at royal mint bullion site, the signiture range. The prices of silver and platinum are going to go up a lot, gold will increase but not by a similar %. The mint is Ltd company owned by the treasury, so using them to invest not only helps the investor the profits will help the uk. (i hope) I put 2/3rds of my savings into precious metals in august and have already made a profit of somewhere between 5-10%.

It was really making me worry until I made myself a worst case scenario back up plan in case they chuck all us foreigners out of the country!

The back up plan is to go an EU funded PhD in Florence (thanks EU) and DH come visit every other weekend via easy jet! Or if I don't get a place, go back to my home town and teach English. (Its just a daydream really but I like to be prepared!)