Westministenders: BAH HUMBUG said Mr Rees-Mogg

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"At this festive season of the year, Mr Scrooge Rees-Mogg, ... it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir."

"Are there no prisons hostels?"

"Plenty of prisons hostels..."

"And the Union workhouses foodbanks." demanded Scrooge Jacob. "Are they still in operation?"

"Both very busy, sir..."

"Those who are badly off must go there."

"Many can't go there; and many would rather die."

"If they would rather die," said Scrooge ^Rees-Mogg, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."

He continued "Besides I do not believe that anyone would die without them. I think Theresa is right, there are many complex reasons why nurses go to food banks. The real reason for the rise in numbers is that people know that they are there and Labour deliberately didn't tell them. To have charitable support given by people voluntarily to support their fellow citizens I think is rather uplifting and shows what a good, compassionate country we are"

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This thread is dedicated to Mrs8 and anyone else who is working to make life just a little better in the difficult circumstances that ALL politicians are currently doing their best to ignore (despite what they profess).

No Deal = even more poverty and destitution.

MERRY CHRISTMAS & HERES HOPING FOR A HAPPIER NEW YEAR
especially to those of you, who might be having a tough time or facing real uncertainity.

Lawrence Carter@lawrencecarter1

This visit to the US by David Davis & Owen Paterson was funded by US business interests that want the UK to weaken its food standards post-Brexit.
Read the full investigation here:

Leading Brexiteers’ trip to meet Trump trade officials funded by US business interests

https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2018/12/21/brexit-oklahoma-david-davis-owen-paterson/amp/?twitterr_impression=true

😂😂 Boris again ! 😂😂

PC Dave Wise@CopThatCooks

Pro-tip: Don't hold your hands behind your back when you're taking a photo with a group of coppers 😏

xebobfromUS
TBH my US family are blissfully oblivious of ALL non US news
including Brexit
even those who avidly read NYT / the Journal / Bllomberg
have such a low proportion of stories covering "out of state"
that for those who use the local paper / state TV there is no hope

French news on Orange has very little on Brexit. Today it was the drones and a minor piece on Brexit itself.

Thanks for that article BCF

The most shocking thing is not that it's David David on his own but that Shanker Singham is still in there- still on the payroll. Who is paying the Institute of Economic Affairs these days? I know they have advised the government and migrated from Legatum which was equally dodgy. Literally holders of fringe views discounted by the majority of those with experience.

If TM has moved away from them who is paying them now?

TiP By definition, the US scientists & lawyers I know from joint international tech projects, are not typical

Come to think of it, apart from the local German community, I usually swim in a sea of Citizens Of Nowhere from around the globe.

lonely Legatum was pushing policies to create opportunities for disaster capitalists
They can easily afford a few million seed money into their various new vehicles

Facts of the Year: 1997-2010 is the longest the Tories have been out of office since 1762

Only just, I assume. I remember Harold Wilson talking about 13 years of Tory misrule when he got in in 1964.

I wonder how long Brexit will keep them out

At least for the rest of my lifetime please, which if I am like my parents were, I would expect to be another 25 years +/- two or three.

amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/21/jeremy-corbyn-labour-policy-leaving-eu

Corbyn declaring himself pro Brexit.
He'd miraculously manage to secure a better deal before 29 March.

The F**ker

Placemarking.

Labour with Corbyn have no chance of winning a GE so his views are irrelevant. Need to be looking at what Labour's next leader is saying - once we can identify who that is.

Who would be the best new leader of Labour...

For me either Emily Thornberry or Kier Starmer

We need to get out of Brexit (somehow) find a way to stimulate employment in the cities outside London, stop frigging Austerity and give people hope for the future. At the moment the atmosphere is completely toxic and hideous, and people are dying on the pavements.

I joined labour because I thought Corbyn offered something different and preferable . As far as I and concerned he can now fuck off and then fuck off again.
I am in 2 minds whether to leave the Labour Party or actively join anyone promoting someone else. I am no longer a Corbynite . Period

What’s Yvette Cooper’s record like? I think she ran before didn’t she? I’ve liked what I’ve seen of her over the last few weeks.

Cooper is more a centrist. She ran when Corbyn was elected.
She is"tainted " with being a Blair Minister.
She is awesome. She'd rip May to shreds

Two arrests, a man and a woman, made concerning the drones at Gatwick. They expect to make more arrests.

Good news on the drone front.

I'm also a Yvette Cooper fan- not sure if the glass cliff effect can apply to the old core Labour male voters though.

Also on David Davis ( thick as mince) We all read about his jolly to the US in the dodgy company of the largely discredited Shankar Singham.
I also knew the six-day trip ( longer than he spent in Brussels) was partly funded by an American lobbying organisation that is in favour weakening EU regs on environmental and food standards.

What I didn't know was that the E Foundation who paid DD £5,362 were actually recorded by heroic undercover reporters from Greenpeace’s investigative unit,

They actually previously recorded its director saying that he aimed to raise thousands of dollars from US donors to campaign on Brexit.

Why aren't people more worried that USA big money is interfering to this extent? If you want to find a threat to our ' control' there's the real threat.

Well, everyone seems to be disappearing for Christmas just as I’ve finally caught up!

Just read all the stuff about fresh produce availability and changing our diets etc. I’d only been thinking the other day about mum and I watching clip television together years, maybe about twenty years, ago. Whatever programme we were watching showed a clip from an old Delia Smith show from, iirc, 1974. She explained one of the ingredients she was using along the lines of ‘now, this is a green pepper. If you ask your greengrocer he may be able to order one in for you.’

Oh, and Merry Christmas to everyone else about to take a break from the threads (I may stand a chance of keeping up!). Fingers crossed for some sanity to prevail in the New Year.

Don’t know what I meant by clip television! Fat fingers strike again...

I have been an Yvette Cooper fan since she did this in 2010. Seems a long time ago now -

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2010/oct/22/yvette-cooper-fawcett-society-cuts

I won't disappear at Christmas. DH and I have discussed a rota to let each other have occasional mid afternoon quiet duvet/ mobile device time, in between entertaining DC. Not when we have guests of course!

Interestingly DH made this flippant point. We remember Duvets arriving in the 1970s from... ta dah the EU. I got one of these exotic foreign duvet things as a Christmas present. It was a very exciting change from Brentford nylon sheets I can tell you! Can those who want to return to the 1970's be banned from duvet ownership please.

In fact duvets used to be called the continental quilt! One of the many benefits of inter European cooperation, support and trade!