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Opposition parties motion of no confidence in government

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downthestrada · 19/12/2018 15:18

I'm not clued up on how this all works and there hasn't been too much reporting on it. I actually read about it last night on the SNP page.

So, what happens now? Does this have to be agreed by the government? Or will a vote happen automatically? Article says this "It is understood the government only has to give time to motions tabled in the name of the Leader of the Opposition."

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/vote-of-noconfidence-brexit-uk-government-theresa-may-labour-snp-lib-dems-plaid-cymru-greens-a8689906.html

Labour seem to think that it would be better to plan the correct time to motion this. But, the other parties are frustrated.

I know it looks like Theresa May's plan is to run down the clock, so we are forced to take her deal. We can revoke article 50, but is there a timeframe for this? Do we need to do it so many days in advance of the leaving date?

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HirplesWithHaggis · 19/12/2018 15:24

If the motion is signed by the Leader of the Opposition (Corbyn) there would need to be a debate and vote today, if he doesn't sign it won't happen till the next SNP day, next year. If the government loses a vote of no confidence, there must be a general election, which Jeremy says he wants...

HirplesWithHaggis · 19/12/2018 15:26

As for revoking Article 50, the sooner the better. If we leave it to the last possible moment, rEU may not believe we actually mean it (and won't try again any time soon) and won't allow it. (It's in the court judgement.)

downthestrada · 19/12/2018 15:27

HirplesWithHaggis Thanks for the explanation of how it works.

Hmmm. Doesn't look like it will happen today then and it looks like what Jeremy Corbyn says and what he actually does/wants are different things.

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HirplesWithHaggis · 19/12/2018 15:35

And you're right that there hasn't been much reporting on it, given the rarity and potential importance of the vote.

downthestrada · 19/12/2018 15:42

Yeah. I think it's a shame. They come out with strong statements like "this is what real opposition looks like" and it all looks a bit weak because there's not much reporting. Shows you the power of the media.

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downthestrada · 19/12/2018 15:45

Wow that Wings over Scotland page! I thought it looked quiet on this story but wasn't sure because I don't watch much TV.

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HirplesWithHaggis · 19/12/2018 15:50

I actually watched the BBC lunchtime news, not a word. Some football manager got a good few minutes of prime national news time, though. Hmm

downthestrada · 19/12/2018 16:46

If they actually reported it more prominently, I'm guessing Jeremy Corbyn would feel more pressure to do something or say something about it.

He's making a pretty big decision to not sign it today and there's not much talk about it.

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missesbiggens · 19/12/2018 18:52

I think the SNP have a brass neck making a motion to bring down the UK government. Not much outrage at the audacity of that one!

GD12 · 19/12/2018 18:56

Corbyn doesn't want a vote of no confidence because she knows it'll fail then he'd have to move onto a people's vote. It's blindingly obvious he wants Brexit. What a disgrace.

downthestrada · 19/12/2018 19:17

Yes. It seems he’s happy to trundle along.

I have no problem with the SNPs motion, keeping in mind it included Plaid Cymru, Liberal Democrat’s and Green Party. They’re there as minority opposition - it’s not really audacity. Labour Party are saying that they’re not happy with how things are going but not doing much. Corbyn isn’t clear on what he actually wants re. Brexit. It’s a complete mess.

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HirplesWithHaggis · 19/12/2018 19:50

Um, missesbiggens, Scotland is still part of the UK. The Government in Westminster is sadly as much ours as yours to bring down, and we (in the main) didn't even vote for them. We did, however, vote to Remain in the EU, imagine the audacity of dragging us out anyway! Shock

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