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Would I be mad to book a holiday in early April?

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Wittow · 13/11/2018 13:29

I am looking at a week's skiing in the easter hols, would involve flying to Geneva around the 7/8 April. Would I be mad to even consider it or is the general consensus that we'd be OK to travel within Europe then?

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Talkinpeece · 15/11/2018 19:42

I fully plan to go to the Med on holiday in Mid April
but I have NO intention of booking it till a deal is signed

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Wittow · 16/11/2018 15:50

Boooo. I will go with the consensus and leave booking anything til the deal is done. Mind you with the chaos continuing at the moment it doesn't look particularly promising!!!

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rainbowquack · 16/11/2018 15:53

There is a French section of Geneva airport, for those who are travelling without a visa for CH. (it's my local airport).

Like I said, I am flying early April from Geneva to the UK for a weekend.

As long as we avoid no deal, it should be absolutely fine.

BlitheringIdiots · 16/11/2018 17:18

I suspect Brexit may be off soon anyway.........can't see it happening now. Will be change of leader. More negotiations. Possibly a new vote. It's changeable Times

Dontgiveamonkeys1350 · 17/11/2018 07:57

I have a holiday booked in France for the end of July. I’m hoping it will be okay then. I’m going anyway regardless.

TheElementsSong · 17/11/2018 08:00

Is this a record? A thread about post-Brexit travel and after 5 days no Leaver has shown up to shout about scaremongering, Project Fear or Y2K, plus some grotesque misunderstanding about aviation of the "blockade the skies" variety? Grin

Ohhhhh... it's because the narrative has changed, hasn't it?

WhirlwindHugs · 17/11/2018 08:05

The problem isn't visas is to do with technical certification to do with the actual planes.

Yeah, there's literally no way I would book. Sorry! But think you have made a wise choice.

Twooter · 17/11/2018 08:11

If you’re taking your pets abroad soon after Brexit, ask your vet about getting a rabies blood test done. If a certain deal we might be back to needing a rabies vaccine plus a rabies titre blood test a month later, then a 3 month wait before travel meaning 4 months of peraration time. This is including those already having a passport.
To be honest, IMO it would be a positive step - far to high a risk of imported diseases at the moment.

1tisILeClerc · 17/11/2018 08:15

Until the last person standing for the UK (PM) AND the EU negotiators both say that the same 'deal' is truly signed there is no saying what will actually happen. This point is still several weeks off.
The EU negotiators are not stopping travel. It is more a situation that the road is open but you can't travel because your car has a flat tyre.

rookiemere · 17/11/2018 08:18

Well we're flying to NZ on 3rd April so I hope something is sorted by then - although obviously not in EU. FWIW I wouldn't book to travel to EU for the first week or so after 29th but would after that and am eyeing up some very cheap flights to Copenhagen at the minute for next summer

I'm a bit more worried what the exchange rate will be for my early March ski trip to France

1tisILeClerc · 17/11/2018 08:33

{I'm a bit more worried what the exchange rate will be for my early March ski trip to France}
You could 'play' the market to a small degree, buying Euros when the Pound is high. The rate is bouncing around like crazy at the present depending who opens their mouth and what is said.
Not sure the 'high street' exchange places (as opposed to the specialist money traders) react sufficiently quickly to make much difference.
Of course all those family favourites (Farage and co) will be playing this game and have access to 'spot' prices.

LittleBookofCalm · 17/11/2018 08:37

i am going to the continent in April.
my dd is hoping to go also for several months.
what on earth difference should brexit make??

LittleBookofCalm · 17/11/2018 08:39

err, i am pretty sure people went to france/germany before 1974 (?) when we joined the EU.
what a load of scaremongering silliness

TheElementsSong · 17/11/2018 08:43

Damn Grin

Peregrina · 17/11/2018 08:46

err, i am pretty sure people went to france/germany before 1974 (?) when we joined the EU.
what a load of scaremongering silliness

If you were around at that time, as I was, yes people did travel, but in nothing like the numbers they do now. For one thing there were currency restrictions which made it difficult.

Then we had our own regulatory bodies but we knowingly subsumed their functions into EU bodies. We could re-create them, but it won't happen overnight - these agreements usually take a few years.

So, if May gets her withdrawal agreement through then nothing will happen on 30th March, except that the can will be kicked down the road for a couple of years. If she doesn't then, we crash out, and current aviation agreements lapse.

I for one, am not booking flights, having been caught out by the Monarch collapse. I can't afford to throw away a few hundred pounds each time, just because wealthy Tory men decided to go into a willy waving contest.

WhirlwindHugs · 17/11/2018 08:47

Bingo!

Yeah, it's really not scaremongering.

You should be okay travelling in the UK outside or Europe in most cases. America should be fine, for example.

Inside Europe is the problem. Strangely enough aviation certification has moved on since 1974 and anyone using that as an argument definitely doesn't have even the tiniest clue what they are talking about.

LittleBookofCalm · 17/11/2018 08:49

I believe the erasmus scheme is still going ahead.

VisitorsEntrance · 17/11/2018 08:52

I booked for the same dates ages ago without realising the implications!

I’m just going to be hopeful I guess.

LittleBookofCalm · 17/11/2018 08:54

I would rather get my advise from a reputable source, ie, not some unknown on an open forum
rangely enough aviation certification has moved on since 1974 and anyone using that as an argument definitely doesn't have even the tiniest clue what they are talking about.
thanks for that

1tisILeClerc · 17/11/2018 08:58

At this point on Saturday morning there are 3 possible outcomes depending on what is chosen by the PM:
1: Revoke A50 and remain in the EU, Book your holidays with confidence.
2:Go for the EU/Theresa 'deal', pretty confident things would be near normal unless there is an accidental slip up. Book your holiday with fair confidence and it will probably happen.
3:No deal 'crash out'. Pretty unlikely many will be going anywhere and if the 'emergency' deals have holes in them (likely) you could be stranded in places possibly without valid insurance or passports. Fine if you are of 'adventuring spirit', not fine if you have 3 toddlers.

Peregrina · 17/11/2018 09:00

You should be okay travelling in the UK outside or Europe in most cases. America should be fine, for example.

No, as I understand it, because things like the certificates of airworthiness and pilot certification have been done by the EU body which we are part of, (even if we try to pretend not.) These will lapse, so it won't matter where you fly too, your plane and pilot won't be certified to do so.

WhirlwindHugs · 17/11/2018 09:03

Yeah, I stand by that comment, 100%.

The article you linked to does not back up what you have said. It is two months old and simply quotes airline bosses being confident a deal will be done re: certification. To date there is no deal at all about it.

Obviously airline bosses don't want consumers to put off booking flights as their business will be damaged, but the reality is that there is no deal yet on the key issue.

WhirlwindHugs · 17/11/2018 09:05

Not going to name my source, but was told yesterday that US should be okay as there is already a separate agreement.

However there may be additional elements I'm not aware of, so happy to stick to don't book advice in general!