What is ‘no deal’ Brexit?

[Talkstotrees]

Perhaps I have been burying my head in the sand. I have consistently dismissed the notion of ‘no deal’ actually happening as being totally ridiculous. No responsible government would allow such a catastrophe to happen on their watch. The unknowns are too great and the knowns are too damaging.

Now, it seems, I may have been too trusting - or perhaps not trusting enough, depending on who I listen to. My head is spinning a bit with it all and I’d welcome views on:

• is ‘no deal’ really an option? Surely Parliament will step in and halt/postpone Brexit if a way forward is not agreed.

• What would the consequences be of ‘no deal’? Can anything be done to mitigate?

I know this has been discussed many times in many threads, however I am becoming quite concerned and could do with hearing something positive (eg, either no deal Brexit won’t happen or if it does it won’t be awful).

Thanks

It's probably like having a party at your house and one of the guests goes around and poos in a corner of every room of the house, complains about most things then expects to take the remaining nibbles as they leave. Would you want them back?

So not undoable then?

I think so, the EU would prefer us in rather than out and plenty of more euro-sceptic countries would too support a revocation of art-50 e.g Poland, Sweden and Denmark

Whether May has the political wisdom to see that the brexit wind has changed direction and act accordingly is another matter.

So, its vital the political pressure is kept up on local MP's and opposition parties...... if only Carolyn Lucas was leader of the LibDems, she so wasted as a Green.

The people of Plymouth voted for brexit and now they can find out what brexit means deal or no-deal.

www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/business/barden-corporation-brexit-factory-closures-2187191

Am I right in thinking, though, that we haven't left yet and so in theory we can withdraw Article 50, say we've changed our minds and just keep the very good deal we already have?

The (current) government position is that A50 is irrevocable. I leave it to the reader to decide what the chances are the UK government is wrong about that. The Scottish parliament is pursuing a court case to the European Court of Justice looking for clarity, so it's possible they could rule that A50 is reversible.

When I say current, I do not mean the position itself, but the government

Had the UK government been thoughtful, polite and had a plan then it would not be such a trauma but the sheer stupidity of STILL not having a real workable plan after 2 1/2 years is putting the chances of exiting well pretty unlikely. At least a couple of the cabinet have suggested they would backslide on any decisions made and thus alerted the EU to the fact that anything has to be legally watertight with no chance of the UK failing to do what it has said.

At least a couple of the cabinet have suggested they would backslide on any decisions made and thus alerted the EU to the fact that anything has to be legally watertight with no chance of the UK failing to do what it has said.

They only said what the EU knew already. I'm afraid the UKs stock around the world isn't brilliant. Just because no one in the UK has heard of Diego Garcia, doesn't make it go away.

If nothing else Brexit is shining a bright light the moth holes of ignorance in the sheet of history as practised by those that drone on about it most.

"EU is out to punish the UK"
I know that's a common belief.
EU doesn't even have to try to punish UK. WTO rules the UK & EU will be obliged to follow in absence of a deal: those are punishing enough (to both sides). We are punishing ourselves, it turns out.

"EU is out to punish the UK"

How does that square with "they need us more than them", "we hold all the cards" etc etc etc.

If nothing else, Brexit has shown us how utterly shit all of our supposed journalists are. Surely "bullying" is defined as "a stronger party (or parties) using their size or strength to take advantage of a weaker party" ?

So the UK is - according to these geniuses - the weaker party. Which contradicts the "we're so big we can go it alone" line.

Where's David Frost or Robin Day ?

Its no No Deal

its Absolutely no deals at all
as all 179 treaties that currently make life as a Brit pretty cushy will go up in smoke in those five minutes.

They will only come back into force as each one is agreed

• by the UK
• by every other party (uop to 150 countries)

IN EACH ONE 179 times

Anybody who thinks No DealS is a Good thing is a bar steward