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Does anyone openly (or even clandestinely) admit to respecting Boris Johnson?

70 replies

Figmentofmyimagination · 28/09/2018 14:56

Someone?

Anyone?

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/09/27/boris-johnson-plan-better-brexit/ (Behind a paywall, but the content is as we have come to expect - sovereignty blah, take back control blah, proud British nation, vile EU superstate, spineless PM, f**k the country blah ad infinitum for 4,000 words).

A man whose moment has passed, or our next PM? (Could it get any worse?)

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bellinisurge · 28/09/2018 21:08

He's a nasty little git. I wouldn't trust him to take the rubbish out or put the kettle in.

SergeantPfeffer · 28/09/2018 22:41

Two words- garden bridge.

I agree that he makes Hunt look super-competent, which is an achievement.

5Yearplan4000 · 29/09/2018 08:41

I like Boris and think he'd make a great PM. He was a brilliant London Mayor.

Neolara · 29/09/2018 08:49

I was watching some political TV program the other day. The commentator said that BJ was incredibly popular amongst members of the Conservative party but most of the MPs disliked and distrusted him. Which of course is problematic because its the party membership who elect the party leader not MPs. It is a similar situation to Labour.

SergeantPfeffer · 29/09/2018 09:00

Oh yeah, brilliant 5. Made really good use of tax payers money Hmm
www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/are-boris-johnsons-garden-bridge-claims-true-or-false/10028810.article

Alondra · 29/09/2018 09:20

Respect a man who is a cheater and liar in his personal and professional life? Nup.

MarmiteTermite · 29/09/2018 09:27

No.

juneau · 29/09/2018 09:31

I can't stand BJ. He's a self-serving, womanising, smug posh boy. Bright? Yes, I'm sure he is, but his obnoxious personality and his utter failure as Foreign Secretary make him completely unsuitable to be PM. Theresa May is a frustrating leader and not especially likeable, but BJ would be disastrous. He's a dishevelled mess, for starters, but the main problem is that he doesn't actually care about anything or anyone but himself.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 29/09/2018 09:34

No I hate. By contrast I’m quite sympathetic to May because impossible to find a solution to Brexit.

MeganBacon · 29/09/2018 11:05

Agree with you Ghoul.
BJ would be a disaster because he has no self-discipline, private life or work life. Can't focus, can't organise himself. Doesn't realise that it's a very serious job that requires utter graft, managerial skill, foresight.
He's a great game show host though, and writes an entertaining newspaper piece.
TM has her many failings - too brittle, doesn't listen well, doesn't understand people well. But she is a grafter and buckled down to it when no-one else was prepared to touch that poison chalice. It must be a very lonely place to be and I do admire her resilience.

Peregrina · 29/09/2018 11:32

Being a grafter and buckling down are both admirable qualities, but a PM really needs to have more and be more approachable than TM is. She would make a much better Deputy - let the PM make the contacts with people, and she would flesh out the detail.

sluj · 29/09/2018 11:44

I think he has cooked his own goose recently and it's quite amusing that he is in the middle of a leadership campaign run-up.

"Respect "? No, I don't think so.

On the other hand, I do find him and his father/siblings quite fascinating. He would be quite high up on my list for a fantasy dinner party guest list. Very entertaining evening if you could keep politics out of it 😁

This inexplicable charisma is what keeps him in the running.

mostdays · 29/09/2018 12:29

I respect JRM more than Boris, and I despise JRM.

LoafEater · 29/09/2018 12:35

Well, plenty of people in Uxbridge as they voted him our MP. Its a really nice town and a nice place to live, but I appear to be surrounded by idiots.

eddiemairswife · 29/09/2018 12:37

I'm not a Tory, but I think people such as Anna Soubry or Dominic Grieve seem to have the right attitude and gravitas to be good leaders.

SwedishEdith · 29/09/2018 12:40

No, I think he's dangerous.

What's he staring at I wonder? - probably a picture of himself.

Yvaine1 · 29/09/2018 12:41

Johnson would fuck anything, or be fucked by anything, if it meant a bit of power.

As a PM he would happily turn the UK into a fascist state if it suited.

He is a danger to everything and everyone decent.

juneau · 29/09/2018 14:15

It must be a very lonely place to be and I do admire her resilience.

Yes, me too.

Cattenberg · 29/09/2018 15:08

No, I don't admire Boris Johnson. I'm amazed that Brexiters believe anything he says. I suspect he's a secret Remainer who spotted an opportunity and ran with it. He and Michael Gove didn't look happy when Leave won, they looked horrified.

*Johnson, sacked by The Times in 1988 for fabricating a quote, made his mark in Brussels not through fair and balanced reporting, but through extreme euro-scepticism. He seized every chance to mock or denigrate the EU, filing stories that were undoubtedly colourful but also grotesquely exaggerated or completely untrue.

The Telegraph loved it. So did the Tory Right. Johnson later confessed: 'Everything I wrote from Brussels, I found was sort of chucking these rocks over the garden wall and I listened to this amazing crash from the greenhouse next door over in England as everything I wrote from Brussels was having this amazing, explosive effect on the Tory party, and it really gave me this I suppose rather weird sense of power.'*

www.indy100.com/article/a-journalist-has-shared-a-story-about-boris-johnson-that-completely-undermines-his-authority-on-the-eu--bkoHJPBuVZ

*As some indication of what Boris’s true feelings on the EU are, even while the UK’s Referendum Campaign was in full swing, he admitted that he had written two columns for the Telegraph - one backing Remain, the other Leave.

The widespread belief is that he only pressed the send button on the Leave column as he thought it would put him in pole position to lead a Eurosceptic Tory party.*

www.irishtimes.com/opinion/boris-johnson-is-a-joke-that-isn-t-funny-anymore-1.3408977

Cattenberg · 29/09/2018 15:09

Sorry for the bold fail. The bits between the asterisks are quotes.

Agustarella · 29/09/2018 15:21

An interesting critique of the Johnson piece: www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=87007

And no, I don't respect him. He's the ultimate establishment insider: corrupt, mendacious, bullying and without a single thought for those outside his bubble of privilege. As others have remarked concerning his personal conduct, he doesn't seem to have much regard for those inside his bubble of privilege either, though I'm not really concerned with a politician's private life.

Ta1kinpeace · 29/09/2018 20:30

Through work I have day to day dealings
with lots and lots of paid up Tory Party members
with people who are elected Tory Councillors
with people who run Brexit fundraising lunches
with Tory electoral agents

to a one they loathe Boris

bellinisurge · 30/09/2018 08:14

Just popping on again to say he's a shifty twat. I wouldn't trust him to take the bins out. I feel the same way about Corbyn.

woman11017 · 30/09/2018 08:54

Johnson has relatively limited personal wealth.

He is vulnerable to those who make him an offer he can't refuse.

If he gains power, this makes us vulnerable too.

lonelyplanetmum · 30/09/2018 09:45

I ( almost ) feel sorry for people like Boris or Fox as they are so impressed by wealth, especially US wealth in the latter case.

So when ruthless multi billionaires come along with their big money corporate agenda mere politicians like Boris seem small fry and I assume are turned into fawning sycophants.

Here's an article on the IEA that I'd missed. Interesting.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/30/brexit-influencing-game-iea-us-rancher-tucker-link