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Booking a ski holiday after ‘brexit day’

17 replies

Borris · 27/08/2018 21:33

Thinking about ski hols for next Easter but have realised that the dates are April and so after brexit. Do you think I’d be stupid to book a French holiday now?

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Havanananana · 27/08/2018 21:47

I refer you to Inghams' Ts&Cs from their website for next season's ski holidays;

BREXIT AND ITS CONSEQUENCES:
[…]

At present, the Changes in Law [as a result of Brexit] that we consider are most likely to occur and, in turn, affect your chosen arrangements are as follows:

a) A potential inability for the United Kingdom as a whole (and ourselves, for the purpose of this clause and your chosen arrangements) to rely on the free movement of workers and, in particular, the Posted Workers Directive. The result of this may be that we are unable to provide you with certain services that make up your chosen arrangements, such as the provision of a local representative, chalet staff, etc.

b) A potential inability for British airlines to operate flights into / out of the European Union and, conversely, an inability for European airlines to operate into / out of the United Kingdom. The result of this may be that we are unable to provide you either with the flights that you have booked or indeed any replacement flights.

cloudtree · 28/08/2018 11:26

Yes. But thousands of others will have too so you won't be alone in risking your money.

Peregrina · 28/08/2018 11:36

Can you afford to risk your money? If you can then go ahead and book and you may be OK anyway.

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/08/2018 01:35

I'd like to know if my long term travel insurance will cover me. As it is I'm booking a flight to/from the UK and will be booking it to come back on the 31st March. Literally.

W0rriedMum · 29/08/2018 01:38

Great question and I wonder if a lack of bookings in Europe will become evident early next year.

Bitchywaitress · 29/08/2018 01:40

Apparently several insurance providers are saying you will not be covered in this eventually!

cloudtree · 29/08/2018 07:11

I'd definitely be asking the question before booking about the cover provided by the insurance. I suspect there will be exclusions.

We generally ski at easter but next year are going in February instead.

1tisILeClerc · 29/08/2018 08:06

Speaking of insurance, there is a POSSIBILITY that insurance for your house and contents and indeed anything, if covered by an EU based insurance company, for which AXA springs to mind MIGHT, in the event of a No deal be affected.
While this is speculation in my mind as I am not strictly affected, it would be worth contacting your insurance/broker to ask what the position might be.
The whole situation is fluid and at present nobody knows the outcome, even Mrs May doesn't KNOW what will happen.
This is not 'project Fear' this is project 'take sensible precautions and find out', admittedly not such a natty title!

Borris · 29/08/2018 08:09

I’m tempted to try and book a last minute one then, when something (or nothing!) is sorted and we know where we stand.

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EdithWeston · 29/08/2018 08:19

Travel insurance doesn't cover the possible consequences of circumstances already known at the time of making the booking and/or taking out the cover, though it may be available for an additional premium if specially written in.

You could book non-EU skiing (Switzerland, or is overflying EU also likely to be a problem) or Norway; or go the other way to Canada.

Havanananana · 29/08/2018 08:30

You could book non-EU skiing (Switzerland, or is overflying EU also likely to be a problem) or Norway; or go the other way to Canada

No - Open Skies covers ALL flights to and from the UK, so non-EU and flights to Canada/USA would also cease. The issue is that on 29th March, UK planes, pilots, aircrew, airports, ground facilities and Air Traffic Control all lose their certification, meaning that no commercial aircraft (UK or foreign) can fly into or out of the UK.

1tisILeClerc · 29/08/2018 09:21

Unless a 'deal' is made, as Havana says flying ANYWHERE is probably impossible from maybe a week before 'B' day to,,,, who knows?
Similarly, traveling by ferry except to the Isle of Wight, unfortunately not known for skiing holidays, or other small islands may not be possible.
Ant that's before you factor in the majority of ferries are French owned and the propensity to strike.
Although it seems unthinkable there is a chance that ONLY the RAF and Navy will be legally able to get on or off the Island (Great Britain).
I am sure there is an Agatha Christie plot line based on this.

VikingVolva · 29/08/2018 16:01

That's quite reassuring Havanananana as it makes UK to big to fail. It's a global hub.

That if course might nit be the case for other Brexit issues though

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/08/2018 16:05

Travel insurance doesn't cover the possible consequences of circumstances already known at the time of making the booking

Even if the travel insurance is multi-year and bought before the problems?

cloudtree · 29/08/2018 16:11

Even if the travel insurance is multi-year and bought before the problems?

I suspect there's no cover if the actual booking was made after the risks were known. To be honest I suspect there's no cover either way since it will be a force majeure type clause (very broadly circumstances outside of the control of the tour operator)

Buteo · 30/08/2018 08:10

That's quite reassuring Havanananana as it makes UK to big to fail. It's a global hub.

Nope.

Heathrow is planning for a potential 2 month stoppage in the event of No Deal.

www.airportwatch.org.uk/2018/07/heathrow-increases-its-debt-by-almost-1-billion-total-net-debt-13-7-bn-to-protect-it-from-a-worst-case-scenario-brexit/

Heathrow airport has raised just about £1bn in debt to stay it going via a “worst-case state of affairs” following a troublesome Brexit, its leader govt has stated.

John Holland-Kaye stated this used to be similar to 2 complete years’ investment: “That provides us a degree of monetary resilience that implies we’re neatly safe in case of no matter worst-case state of affairs we will envisage.”

He stated he anticipated “one thing with regards to continuity” via a Brexit settlement, however “our investment ranges . . . imply we’re safe. Although we haven’t any source of revenue for 2 months, we’d be financially secure.”

1tisILeClerc · 30/08/2018 09:03

While Heathrow may be important it is not vital to the rest of the worlds airlines. Dutch, German and French hubs can probably take over quite happily, with a bit of 'readjustment'. Even BA which we might think of as 'British' is not British owned. The 'Preferential' flight slots at UK airports for BA flights is part of an illusion to prop up British morale (stemming from when BA was British owned no doubt).

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