Will future generations rejoin the EU

[SoloD]

The Brexit vote divided Britain terribly and one of the most notable divides was by age. The elderly were far more likley to vote for Leaving the EU.

As this generation passes away (quicker now we won't be able to fund or staff the NHS) will the young Remainers choose to rejoin the EU in the future just without the opt-outs and rebates we have at the moment?

LoveInTokyo I was just going to make pretty much the same fixes to that crazy post!

If I'd taken more time I'd have also spotted the "bare" typo and I'd have also swapped "right wing" for "conservative".

Because I don't think that being rich and wanting to keep your wealth and pay less tax necessarily goes hand in hand with being a swivel eyed loon socially conservative.

Plenty of Conservatives against Brexit. It's less of a right/left issue and more of those who have benefited from globalisation and those who perceived they have lost out.

Thus wealthy urban professionals in London voted remain, working-class voters in Liverpool voted to leave. I think we all know who will in fact be worse off.

Plenty of Conservatives against Brexit. It's less of a right/left issue and more of those who have benefited from globalisation and those who perceived they have lost out.

If you are fiscally conservative you would naturally lean towards remain, given how much Brexit is going to fuck up the economy. (See Theresa May, Philip Hammond etc.)

I agree with the rest of your statement though.

Thus wealthy urban professionals in London voted remain, working-class voters in Liverpool voted to leave. I think we all know who will in fact be worse off.

Liverpool actually voted 58.2% remain, although other more deprived places in the Merseyside areas voted leave. Urban areas on the whole were far more likely to vote remain. Nearly all the large cities did, even in the north.

@SoloD you said
"It is such as huge pity that they old who voted for Brexit did so knowing they would not have to bare the consequences of their vote. We may well be heading back to a situation in the 1970s where our youth have to travel abroad to Europe looking for jobs."

I simply stated i am young and voted for leave, so your sweeping generalisation is not correct.

If we rejoin we'd have to have the Euro. Which I don't want. One of the reasons I voted Remain was because, all things, considered we had a sweet enough deal (sorry if that triggers people ). Weren't in the Euro. Weren't in Schengen. We CHOSE to have freer FOM than most but we didn't have to.

bellini 100% agree with you. How crazy to throw all that away!

I'm not sure that the EU as it currently exists will be there for us to re-join at a later date. Whether it will be an improved model or something awful that we are well out of remains to be seen

If it is going to be awful in the future EU no one will be in it. More likely they will work it out between them. You know , like Brexit is "gonna work out fine".
Ridiculous all around.

@OlennasWimple
Is there any evidence for this, or is this a case of wishful thinking? The EU is certainly doing better than we are economical with growth rates now exceeding the UK's.

SoloD - Italy is still a potential candidate for leaving the EU - current polling says not (but by a small margin, rather like the pre-Brexit polling), but the Eurosceptic political parties are gaining more and more support

Deutsche Bank is still unstable and liable to collapse

Far right politics is gaining a foothold in many EU countries

No-one knows the impact that Brexit will have on the EU as a whole (will the positives outweigh the negatives for them??)

Trying to project 50 years ahead is almost impossible, but I don't think it's entirely unrealistic to suggest that the EU as it is currently constituted won't exist.

@OlennasWimple - according to JRM, we should just about be ok in 50 years time. I'll probably be dead by then but my daughter (11) can see in the joy with her children and possibly grandchildren.
Yippee.

Italy is still a potential candidate for leaving the EU - current polling says not (but by a small margin, rather like the pre-Brexit polling), but the Eurosceptic political parties are gaining more and more support

Italy is not the UK. Quite aside from a completely different constitutional position (borne, sadly of bitter experience) the drivers for leaving the EU are not based around what a bunch of posh public schoolboys can con the electorate into. Italy tends to function in spite of it's politicians, rather than because of them.

A lot of Italys Euro angst is basic geography. They are the first port of call for all the refugees that make it across from Africa, and they're not feeling the Eurolove for it. Which is especially galling as they feel much less complicit than - say - the UK in creating the crisis in the first place. Bearing in mind if they actually behaved like some suggested, and let the refugees drown, they'd be international pariahs in a heartbeat.

One thing Brexit might do (and thus might inform the way the EU handles it) is start a rash of "If they can do it, why can't we .....".

Except that we plainly can't do it.

The EU doesn't even really need to sabotage our efforts to leave to make an example of us. Our government is doing that all by itself.