Genuine question to Leave voters - what did you expect to happen when you voted Leave?

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I voted Remain and I really want to know what Leavers expect to achieve from their vote. Not being sarky. I read/hear so much about "that's what people voted for/that's not what people voted for". Please tell me what you expect to happen now.

Talk about a hostage to fortune. This sort of thing is hard to predict at the best of times and these days the past is no guide to the future, but to while away a few minutes before the football I'll have a go.

What I expect to happen now ... May's poisonous duplicity having finally been confirmed, she will be forced out of office some time before Tory Conference in September. The utterly discredited White Flag Paper, pre-approved by Merkel, will be rejected by the country even if various bonehead Tory loyalists insist it is either exactly what we need, or the best we can expect, when it is neither, the walking definition of BRiNO.

Plans for no deal / WTO, already more advanced than people think, will be completed to a workable standard, if less than perfect. The EU will, yet again, try to intervene / interfere in our affairs and will come up with some half baked solution, including trying to extend the Article 50 deadline, but by then it will be too late.

We leave the EU at 11pm on 29th March next year with no deal. We pay the EU only what we actually owe it, i.e. nothing. I have no fears about WTO but it will still take a while to bed down. The trade-related disasters forecast by EU stooges will not come to pass.

Then, we'll have to see. The EU is obviously cracking at the seams and the departure of its second largest net contributor won't make that any easier to manage, especially with the loss of face the Commission will suffer for failing to overturn Brexit, or impose a bad deal on us.

The only other thing is that the Tory Party is going to be so badly crushed in next May's local elections that it splits, and serves it right.

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The EU is not 'cracking at the seams' and although it would need checking, the UK is not the second largest net contributor. If it were taken on a 'per head of population' scale I very much doubt UK would be second.
The good news is the Tory party will be crushed.
The UK does have an 'exit bill' to pay, to cover the projects and investments that were promised until the end of the EU financial segment. At least the UK can have blue passports (made in the EU).
As Mrs Merkel is not the EU spokesperson for Brexit, and as such only representing Germany she does not have full authority to 'pre approve' anything.

Isn't it the EUSSR, Wholly? Surprised at your omission. And you're dead right. The EUSSR will be destroyed by the deprivation of the 10bn benevolent gift from the UK SSR . Especially when the UK didn't benefit in any way whatsoever from it's membership. No business used it as their EU location, I'm sure. Nada benefit. Why the UK kept aknocking to get in, I'll never know.

The EUSSR will now suffer from those parasitic businesses which the UK are lucky enough to have gotten rid of. Also those scaredy cats who will make sure they have EU locations. Sorry, EUSSR locations. They won't add up to the 10bn or anything like it to the broken up bloc.

Next, we should set our sights on NATO SSR . They expect the UK to go to war in defence of other NATO members. Even members who have cheese for breakfast. Cheese. Down with all those pooling of sovereignty bloodsuckin' orgs. WTO SSR .

Bring back a state of nature.

The referendum ballot didn't say anything about a deal. Only to leave or remain. Nobody voted for a deal of any sort. A deal is not the democratic will of the people (or Russian bots) That is a different can of worms.

I presume the 'parasitic businesses' are the ones where companies from the EU INVESTED where the UK government did not?
The UK kept knocking to get in because the UK was buggered at the time. No investment, strikes, 3 day week, power cuts etc.

its a short term loss but a long term gain. how do you think countries like Switzerland Australia, Canada etc survive? people just need to stop sulking over what's happened and start planning how to move forward and make the economy stronger!

Thanks @Monday55 . I don't agree with you but I see your perspective.
Thatcher's policies, tore our country to pieces in my view. We sort of recovered thanks in no small part, again in my view, to our membership of the EU.
I remember being in school and being told "your generation will know long periods of unemployment ". Arguably irresponsible of the teacher to say that. Or the reverse.
It's a pretty foul thing to dump on your kids like that. Again, in my view.

54321go. And the Japanese et al. I heard an LBC radio presenter say they are located in the UK because it is so well run. Nothing to do with EU access. So they will be definitely staying. I'd better double check on reports of those moving as it must be fake news.

I suppose naively I assumed that if the Leave camp won, the government of the day would set about defining exactly what the country needed to sort out before the deadline expired so that the country could move forward with confidence based on a completely new relationship with the rest of the world. Not spend month after month after month faffing about and arguing internally achieving jack shit.

Take flights. Who the jeff knows what will happen. My common sense head tells me that things will be OK.

My doom monger head tells me that we are being governed by a clump of self serving twats who will be running around like headless chickens as the midnight hour approaches.

Whatever happened to excellence?

Since Brexit is going to be so great, please explain why Jacob RM and others are taking their many millions OUT of the UK and setting up 'shop' in the EU?

54321go. I'm taking the kool aid. What needs to be said there is that he has no control over the day to day running of his business. Business shouldn't be listened to in any event if it interferes with the ideology. And 'It'll be great and global Britain'. Don't know where this leaves NI, but never mind that.

I am much relieved that you know everything and that the sunny uplands are coming to the UK.

Switzerland has great banking wealth that the UK doesn't match at the moment; and with Lloyds (for starters) relocating, the UK's banking profile is not getting any higher.

Australia has most trade with its near neighbours like Japan.

Canada also has most trade with its near neighbours... oh and the EU.

I'm not a leave voter, far from it, but my understanding is that a lot of leave voters were white working class people from deprived areas. I think what they expected was that all the EU non-skilled workers would return to their home countries, and that more jobs and houses would be available to them and their families. I think also they were sick of being told what to do by politicians who clearly didn't have their best interests at heart.
Now, obviously these people will suffer as much as the rest of us after brexit, but the responsibility for that IMO rests solely with the government.

Trade with Australia is around 3%, they face the ASEAN countries.
Japanese car manufacturers have already said if Customs and SM mean it costs any more to manufacture in the UK they will not reinvest. As plants are already running they will remain until the end of that vehicle cycle.

Also, I think many had bought into the givernment spin that over crowded schools and hospitals were down to migration, not underfunding. It suited the government for a while to perpetuate this myth, and this is the consequence.

Well so far the estimated 'cost' to the UK is in excess of 2 Billion up to 'Brexit day' in March. From then who knows how much more expensive it will be.
Darn expensive Blue passports (made in the EU) if you ask me.
Just think, the Government could have built and staffed several hospitals for that amount of money. Of course it is all coming out of Leavers (and everyone else's) pockets in taxes.

That 2 Billion is what the UK Gov has spent on 'preparations'.

I'm not a leave voter, far from it, but my understanding is that a lot of leave voters were white working class people from deprived areas.

Not true. All my white working class friends voted remain. Most deprived inner cities voted remain. I'm fed up of the lies and manipulation.

Leavers (I did not vote) want restrictions on immigration, takeaway workers - no, highly trained English speakers - yes. To get out of the power of people like Barnier and Junker, to make our own laws and get out of the Human Rights act introduced by Blair which is all about enriching lawyers - like his awful wife - how many houses do they now own?

People find it hard to believe how various U.K. governments have signed our rights over to these unelected people

Gaspode, who in the EU who has executive power is unelected? Don't you get the opportunity to vote for your MEPs? I know I do.

On the basis that the UK 'ruled' nearly half the world some 130 years ago it takes some serious mismanagement to currently be unable to hold England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland together, all WELL before the EU.
All the laws emanating from the EU were voted on by UK politicians (MEPs) and they had a right to veto or modify them (at the proposal stages) so they are effectively BRITISH laws. Mind you not all the MEPs were 'up to snuff' like Mr Farage who rarely attended the EU parliament. It is UK politicians who have suggested going back to workhouses for the unemployed (didn't feature in the Leave manifesto but you have to read the fine print).

I am not a Leaver but one prediction I will make: That May, Redwood, Fox, Davis will scuttle away as fast as their legs will carry them when the shit does hit the fan. As Cameron, Osborne and Gisela Stuart did. Remember her? She was the Chair of the official Leave campaign.

54321 - don't all Empires crumble like that though? Where are the Roman, Ottoman and Austro-Hungarian empires now?

Speaking of Mr Farage, isn't one of the things that the UK needs to settle with their "leaving bill" the matter of who pays for all the ex-UK MEP pensions after we leave?