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What if there is another GE before we actually Leave?

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bearbehind · 25/05/2018 08:52

Given the stories going around about TM requesting an extension of the transition period to 2023 that brings into play the fact that there will have to be another GE before then.

That's if the EU even agree which is debatable because we'd effectively have favoured nation status.

IMO the 2 main parties are as bad as each other right now but maybe in a few years Labour will get rid of Corbyn and replace him with someone who's moved on from 1970's rallies.

If this limbo period is damaging and support for Brexit dwindles then, come 2023 we could well be begging to be alllowed back into the EU.

It's just a mess isn't it?

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lalalonglegs · 25/05/2018 10:40

There has to be another general election by June 22 so, if the transition period is extended, then it would fall in the middle of that. I think if the full fixed term is served, then it's hard to imagine that the next GE won't be fought on grovelling our way back into the EU. I know that Brexiteers don't like to acknowledge how reliant their win was on elderly voters but analysis has shown that by 2021 demographic change alone would be enought to reverse Brexit. The rumours of an autumn election are persistent though...

DGRossetti · 25/05/2018 14:35

I suspect we'd end up exactly where we are now. Which is where you get when both major political parties in a two-party system repeatedly abdicate responsibility for tough decisions.

And all the while, important legislation (e.g the bill to prevent DV victims having to be cross-examined by their abusers) just falls by the wayside (as Jess Phillips noted, with deserved fury). Just taking that bill alone will see at least 5 years before it gets another chance.

The old trope about insanity being to repeat the same action expecting a different outcome applies perfectly here. The 2017 election was not a freak result. It's the new UK order.

lljkk · 25/05/2018 22:14

No party in last GE promised to Remain. I can't see that another GE would make slightest bit of difference to whether we Brexit.

lalalonglegs · 26/05/2018 07:13

You're right, ljikk, that neither Labour or the Conservatives promised to remain (although the LibDems and Greens both promised another referendum and the SNP, iirc, promised to remain in the SM) but, crucially for many voters, Labour came up with its six tests of a successful Brexit which, were they to be used, would mean that Brexiting would be virtually impossible. Fooled lots of voters (including me) before they quietly dropped them.

lljkk · 26/05/2018 09:45

Promising a Referendum is not the same as "WE WILL NOT BREXIT"
Tests are wooly nonsense statements that mean they can bend whichever way the wind blows, to be decided later.

No party ran on a platform to reverse Brexit. None at all.

falcon5 · 28/06/2018 21:08

What about the lib dems?

Peregrina · 29/06/2018 11:56

Lib Dems and Greens support Remain, but are prepared to go along with not trying to overturn the results of the last Referendum. Personally, I think they should. Cut out this 'will of the people' malarky - we elected MPs to make considered decisions on our behalf. If you listened to the 'will of the people' you would have near zero tax but a fully funded NHS.

I was on the march last Saturday which ostensibly was for a "Peoples' vote" but was anti-Brexit, and unless the strictest rules about what statements could be made on buses and referendum literature then the Press would whip up the same anti-EU propaganda as last time, and enough people would fall for it.

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