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Bye to Unilever

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sleep5 · 14/03/2018 22:16

Unilever look likely to move from their landmark head office near The Strand to Rotterdam due to Brexit. They're the 7th most valuable company in Europe. I wonder how many others will head off?

www.theguardian.com/business/2018/mar/14/unilever-pick-rotterdam-over-london-main-headquarters-brexit

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Doubletrouble99 · 15/03/2018 11:15

Not true sleep. It's a paper exercise because of hostile takeover bids which can be better defended via The Netherlands laws where they have had a joint head office since the 1930s. No closing of the building in London and no loose of jobs.

lonelyplanetmum · 16/03/2018 10:23

Yes bye to Unilever is the tip of a huge iceberg.

Unilever is significant o
Kbecause it’s the UK’s third-biggest company ( value £105bn). The decision to choose Rotterdam over London is a huge blow for the government. Yes only 50 out of 7,500 jobs are going immediately. However this departure is a sign of declining confidence in the U.K.
A letter was sent to all Unilever's UK employees before the referendum, saying

"It is not for us to suggest how people might vote. Many factors need to be considered. We respect that. But in taking this hugely important and irreversible decision, we feel a responsibility to point out that Unilever in the UK....would be negatively impacted if the UK were to leave the European Union."

So yes, Brexit IS a significant factor.

It is not a coincidence that many companies are closing,moving, restructuring, giving profit warnings or making redundancies. The referendum triggered a fall in the £. Signs of the consequences appear on a daily basis. It’s undeniable.

My incomplete list of other victims of the referendum, the weaker pound and the loss of EU membership appears below.( As partly posted on another thread.)

This is serious.Whilst some of the business may have had variable profit before, the referendum was the death knell to several household names. They may have survived were it not for our act of self harm.

#Brexit #Unilever
t.co/Bq2PYiAhul via @financialtimes

•Waitrose and John Lewis profits down 77 %
•Store closures M and S.
•Debenhams - future uncertain, store closures and redundancies.
•New Look- mass closures 90 stores and 900 + jobs at risk.

Other recent serious Profit warnings or omens at:

House of Fraser
Homebase
Marks & Spencer
Next

Post Referendum collapses

•Carillion- liquidation
•150 jobs from Merck.
•Jaeger-gone
•East clothing-gone
•Travis Perkins- decline, restructure , profit warnings
•Monarch-gone
•Shoe Zone - 84% profit fall
Brantano/ Shoe city 73 stores and 64 concessions employing 1,086 staff- Administration.

Jones Bootmaker-100 shops and about 800 employees, is also at risk of administration

Rivington pink wafer biscuits- gone
Southern salads- gone
Lowcostholidays -gone citing Brexit
Hewden gone citing Brexit
Maplin- gone
Toy R Us - gone
Feather & Black - gone
Multiyork - gone

Reductions , warnings closures

Oliver Bonas
Jamie Oliver
Prezzo
Chimichanga
Cafe Rouge and Bella Italia
Byron -rescue sale

Moves or reductions

Hiscox
Goldman Sachs
jP Morgan
Standard chartered
UBS

Not forgetting moves if EU hubs at

•Standard Life Aberdeen, to Dublin.

•Sumitomo Mitsui Financial Group Inc. to Frankfurt

Daiwa Securities Group To Frankfurt

•Insurer Admiral Group to Spain

•T Rowe etc to Luxembourg’s f

•Barclays EU headquarters to Dublin.

•JPMorgan chase to Dublin

•Bank of America to Dublin.

•Lloyd’s of London to Brussels

•LONDON - Mizuho, one of Japan's "Big Four" banks,to Frankfurt

•Travelers Europe to Dublin

•US insurer AIG to Luxembourg

•Citigroup Inc to Frankfurt

•Frankfurt also Standard Chartered

•Deutsche Bank trading and investment-banking assets from London Frankfurt.

•Nomura Holdings Inc -Frankfurt

•EMA to Amsterdam

•Paris -European Banking Authority

•Rapid Medical is a high-tech start-up moved R&D to France to protect EU grant funding.

•Structural steelwork maker Severfield blames Brexit uncertainties for job cuts in Bolton. Roughly a third of the workforce laid off.

BUT some good news:

•	Alcohol companies are  <a class="break-all" href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/26/johnnie-walker-diageo-profits-pound-smirnoff-guinness-dollar" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">doing well</a>- seriously! 

•The French utility EDF still going ahead (?) with approved a project to build a nuclear power plant authorised by the gov funded by France and China.
•Qatar going invest more than $6 billion in the Transport, property and technology sectors.

Many more small businesses going than usual though :
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/business/brexit-uncertainty-is-leading-cause-of-business-closures-for-young-entrepreneurs-says-survey-1-8538867

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-latest-news-uk-restaurants-closing-bust-20-per-cent-leave-eu-a8023576.html

Doubletrouble99 · 16/03/2018 11:03

Well Lonely, I would completely dismiss all the retailers you have listed as they have nothing to do with Brexit and everything to do with changes in buying patterns.

I would also dismiss the idea that all the other companies are leaving if I had time to go through the whole list.

For instance Lloyds of London are moving their European operation to Brussels. Well this is only for 'simple' insurance products that are a very small % of their trade. It will mean little or no job losses in London and in fact they are going to move their employees in Italy and Germany to man it - in total 30 of them and will only need 50 people employed max anyway.

Fear mongering I thinks.

Peregrina · 16/03/2018 11:19

It's a paper exercise because of hostile takeover bids which can be better defended via The Netherlands laws

Doesn't that tell you something about the laws made in Westminster?

Personally, I am happy to see profit warnings at Next - the management supported Leave, so it's up to them to put their money where their mouths were. I would be sorry for the staff who lost their jobs.

lonelyplanetmum · 16/03/2018 13:43

Businesses were not failing to this extent previously.

Internet shopping happened long before the referendum. Many of these businesses had embraced on line business anyway.

When the business owners cite Brexit as I factor they should be respected. It's absurd to postulate it's a coincidence.

time4chocolate · 16/03/2018 13:45

Lonelyplanetmum I cant believe that you have bought into that. Do you actually believe they are all brexit related?

I feel the fear fairy has been at work!!

time4chocolate · 16/03/2018 14:07

Here is an article on retail published a week before Brexit.

www.economist.com/news/britain/21700699-many-shops-are-struggling-survive-britains-fast-changing-and-ruthlessly-competitive

lonelyplanetmum · 16/03/2018 14:58

Time Thank you for the old economist article. Some current links are posted below.

I complete agree that some of the listed businesses had other challenges to meet too. However without the referendum they could have risen** to meet those challenges.

I can’t believe that anyone can continue to dismiss these difficulties as project fear. Relinquishing our EU membership was a factor in Kraft’s bid for Unilever and clearly had a significant or predominant role in the long list* of other businesses.
*
At least expertise is back in vogue though!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jan/17/nearly-half-a-million-uk-firms-facing-significant-financial-distress

http://theconversation.com/brexits-impact-on-small-businesses-the-experts-may-be-spot-on-after-all-90561

https://www.insider.co.uk/news/begbies-traynor-says-half-million-11864632

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-30/carney-says-u-k-business-investment-shows-clear-brexit-impact

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-latest-news-uk-restaurants-closing-bust-20-per-cent-leave-eu-a8023576.html

https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2018/01/brexit-driving-london-restaurant-closures/

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/22/the-brexit-economy-things-are-starting-to-deteriorate

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-trade-deal-with-europe-is-vital-warns-british-chambers-of-commerce-nfr32plz2

lonelyplanetmum · 16/03/2018 14:59

Bold fail on my phone.

time4chocolate · 16/03/2018 15:16

Lonelyplanetmum - thanks for links, I can’t read them right now as there are quite a few and I am in the office supposedly working Blush will defo have a read when back home.

DGRossetti · 16/03/2018 15:22

www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/16/brexit_in_spaaaaace/

Countries are pouncing on space work originally destined for the UK like a “feeding frenzy of hyenas” according to a selection of representatives from the UK industry and education sectors.

The British government’s EU Internal Market Sub-Committee took evidence yesterday on the implications of Britain's exit from the European Union for the UK’s space industry.

Businesses in the trade (in the form of Airbus and Surrey Satellite) painted a gloomy picture, seeing themselves very much at “the sharp end” of Brexit with work on projects such as the Galileo constellation of navigation satellites already starting to bleed out of the UK.

(contd)

Tansie1 · 09/05/2018 10:00

I have said all along that no Brexiter will ever concede that the loss of jobs, or companies relocating to the EU can possibly, ever be as a result of Brexit. It will always be 'other factors'.

That'd be considered almost treasonous.

twofingerstoEverything · 12/05/2018 14:06

Yes, it's all "Project Fear" isn't it? Hmm FFS

CremeBrulee · 12/05/2018 14:21

I just can't believe we as a nation are sitting back and watching the lunacy of Brexit unfold.

The consequences will be huge and most are yet to even start to be felt. It's so grating when the leave voters shrill that all the ill effects predicted haven't happened. We haven't bloody left yet, just you wait!

RayneDance · 06/07/2018 22:43

Unilever left because of take over and its causing them issues.

JWIM · 07/07/2018 03:43

What take over Rayne?

GardenGeek · 07/07/2018 04:03

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abbsisspartacus · 07/07/2018 04:14

They test on animals anyway I shan't miss them

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