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Westministers: Happy New Year?

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RedToothBrush · 05/01/2018 11:37

And so we enter a New Year full of hope that things might just be about to recover from our national nervous breakdown... or perhaps not.

As we have Damien Green ejected from his role as Deputy PM over allegations of inappropriate conduct towards woman and use of porn at the end of last year, 2018 sees a bright new progressive dawn with the appointment to the role of universities regulator of Toby Young. A man who has deleted 20,000 tweets including many which are inappropriate and offensive to women, is a fan of eugenics and hates the working class and disabled.

Meanwhile the NHS is facing a crisis which is totally unexpected to the government and couldn't possibly have been planned for by a man who has over seen it for over five years. Which naturally bodes really well for Brexit planning.

We are apparently planning to join the TPP. Never mind geopolitics we can move the UK to the Pacific region.

We still are not ready for trade talks because the Cabinet can not agree on anything. Not that it sounds like they have actually discussed anything along these lines yet.

Rumours are that the Cabinet - including arch leavers such as Gove - are leaning towards supporting May and a softer option, despite the disgust of Johnson, who once again is the subject of malicious chatter about his sacking in a forthcoming Cabinet Reshuffle.

There is talk of further Tory Party war with the revelation that membership of the party has dropped to a core of just 70,000 hardline authoritarian men, most of whom are over 60. Tory HQ now wants to (perhaps with some good reason to prevent the loons) rewrite the constitution and limit the power of local associations to select candidates. The Tory party is now lining up to be a power struggle between internal authoritarians, who don't like democracy voices or structure.

Meanwhile the Labour Party membership now apparently overwhelmingly looks upon staying in the customs union and single market favourably and is in favour of a second referendum. In opposition to the leadership who are utterly committed to Hard Brexit. Much to the annoyance of Lord Adonis who is pitching a fit about government corruption and incompetence and being accused of being elite because he going skiing. Unlike of prominent Leavers who are in touch with the working class.

And finally Nigel Farage has got a meeting with Barnier. Farage, unlike Clegg, Clarke and Adonis, will not be accused by the Right Wing Press of undermining the government's negotiating position because...

It appears that we are in for another year of Brexit nonsense then.

We've not even heard mention of Gibraltar yet.

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/01/2018 23:45

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/07/theresa-may-set-appoint-cabinet-minister-no-deal-reshuffle/?utmsource=dlvr.itt__
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“Cabinet minister for no deal” is to be appointed by Theresa May
as part of the reshuffle of her top team which begins on Monday, the Telegraph can reveal.

The new minister is likely to be based in the Department for Exiting the European Union alongside David Davis, the Brexit Secretary, to provide regular updates on preparations for leaving the EU without a trade deal.
They would attend Cabinet and control a significant budget, but would not be a Secretary of State.

The appointment will be seen as an attempt by the Prime Minister to demonstrate to her EU counterparts and to Brexiteers that Britain is serious about leaving the EU without a deal if talks fail
Wink__ < too juvenile - Barnier, unlike DD, is not playing a game of chicken.
Real preparation would require a few billion, take years and well, actually building infrastructure, buying land, recruiting and training customs staff etc >

Mirror quotes Torygraph:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-to-appoint-no-deal-11814687

Theresa May is reportedly poised to appoint a 'no deal Brexit ' minister in her Cabinet reshuffle on Monday.

The Prime Minister is said to have created the post in an apparent attempt to show Britain is prepared to walk away from talks in Brussels should they prove unsuccessful.

Brexit minister Steve Baker, deputy to David Davis, is expected to be given the post, The Daily Telegraph reports.

frumpety · 08/01/2018 05:51

www.ft.com/content/1bd3b34a-f390-11e7-88f7-5465a6ce1a00

Also
KPMG
quits advisory role in Grenfell inquiry .

HesterThrale · 08/01/2018 06:33

Former Tory chairman Lord Saatchi says Royal Commission needed to safeguard NHS

inews.co.uk/news/former-tory-chairman-lord-saatchi-says-royal-commission-needed-safeguard-nhs/

Well, the NHS does need friends in high places...
But Saatchi?

Sostenueto · 08/01/2018 06:52

** lurking happy new year!

Westministers: Happy New Year?
lonelyplanetmum · 08/01/2018 07:24

This new post of a 'no deal Brexit ' minister is really worrying.

I believe that the bare fact of naming something and giving it press attention as a separate entity makes it seem more real, more viable and makes support more likely. If 'relinquishing membership of the EU' had always been called that, rather than giving it a new name, it is possible that the momentum in the growth of support would have been slower and the referendum result would have been different.

By all means prepare for no deal, that is essential given the mess that has been created, but this crisis preparation should be an integral part of the whole department, not invigorated with a new minister. If this proposed appointment is true then the possibility of no deal will now be talked about frequently as a viable proposition and could garner increasing domestic support.

(If they have to be appointed and given a name then call them something else. I don't know, but ' the avoid at all costs minister' or the 'exiting in the EU emergency minister' or the ' EU crisis budget minister'.)

If true, having a no deal minister makes it more likely, I feel it in my bones!

woman11017 · 08/01/2018 07:39

#TeamAdonis just decorously thrashed a rather tired and emotional Piers Morgan on Good Morning Britain, who concluded his screaming (it wasn't really an interview) with a veiled threat to his female co presenter, who had tried to let Adonis speak:
"I think we all know the way you voted."
Nice.

#TeamOprah looking lovely this morning too. Smile

HashiAsLarry · 08/01/2018 07:49

Talking Adonis and royal commissions he tweeted this yesterday

Beware Tory calls for a royal commission on the NHS. It will take years & is a ploy to avoid doing anything now. They aren’t proposing a royal commission on leaving the EU!

woman11017 · 08/01/2018 07:57

Yep, on the royal commission. Hashi and Hester

Also in Good Morning Britain, Adonis said quietly that he thinks NF is the right person to negotiate with Barnier as he is the de facto prime minister now.

UKIP state: you broke it; you bought it (or should that be the other way round?)

NoCryingInEngineering · 08/01/2018 09:31

One of the 2015 "rising stars" is our local MP. I've no idea what he's like as a constituency MP but he's very good at getting himself in the free paper, generally defending the hospital in NextTown which has been under threat of closure since we moved here. Last week he was complaining about the difficulty of attracting staff to work at it nothing to do with pay, conditions or career progression at what seems to be a doomed facility of course

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RedToothBrush · 08/01/2018 10:34

Laura Kuenssberg‏ @bbclaurak
Most important bits of reshuffle may well be not about cabinet headlines - what happens at tory hq after elex embarrassment, and how big the changes are in junior ranks tmrw
PM has only just arrived at Number 10 - expecting first name 11ish, probably Green’s replacement, then most of Cabinet names at about 1

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RedToothBrush · 08/01/2018 10:37

Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn
Reshuffle gossip latest: some Cabinet ministers will be fired today, but spared indignity of walk up Downing Street. Back door or via phone.
Also: I'm told it is unlikely there will be a new First Secretary to replace Damian Green. Cabinet Office minister with full Cabinet rank instead.
PM hauling in every member of the Cabinet for a face to face chat today - even likes of Hammond and Boris who are staying. A busy day on Downing Street.

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RedToothBrush · 08/01/2018 10:59

Beth Rigby @BethRigby
One of 2017 intake tells me to watch for @bbradleymp getting a post in #CCHQ. New MP for Mansfield doing a lot of work with party apparently #Reshuffle

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DGRossetti · 08/01/2018 11:00

EU bans BYOD in FCA regulated companies ...

www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/08/fca_mifid_gold_plating_bans_byod/

as if things weren't bad enough. Presumably, even post-Brexit, these regulations need to be adhered to if we wish to trade ?

RedToothBrush · 08/01/2018 11:04

Paul Waugh‏ @paulwaugh
Just spotted Patrick Mcloughlin leaving Speaker s Court, traditionally the graveyard where ministers told is sacking.
^weeted Paul Waugh
Though he is widely expected to have resigned rather than being sacked.^

^Laura Kuenssberg @bbclaurak
Understand he isn’t talking to PM until later, altho certainly wouldn’t be surprised if he’s out - was a junior minister way back under Thatcher

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RedToothBrush · 08/01/2018 11:20

Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound
HEALTH WARNING: One source only - Lidington to first sec. Greening to DWP. Perry to BEIS. Grayling party chairman.

Jonathan Dunn @JonathanD1962
Grayling would a catastrophic mistake as Party Chairman. He was bad enough at Justice & Transport. Reminds me of worse type of partisan GOP surrogates in US who will happily argue black is white if that’s party line. Predict CG would annoy grass roots & alienate voters.

Amber de Botton @amberdebotton
Spotted: @AlanDuncanMP walking into the back of Downing St

Grayling's reputation is dreadful.

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RedToothBrush · 08/01/2018 11:24

Big news for NI:

Harry Cole @MrHarryCole
EXC: James Brokenshire has resigned from the Cabinet.

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RedToothBrush · 08/01/2018 11:24

Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound
Big surprise. Massive May loyalist for years

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RedToothBrush · 08/01/2018 11:32

'Health Reasons' apparently.

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RedToothBrush · 08/01/2018 11:34

Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound
Second source that this is "pretty much" right. Whatever that means

In reference to Grayling, Liddington, Greening tweet.

Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound
As per @JGForsyth looks like Lidington has cabinet office role but not 1st sec title. Rest not disputed by other sources

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DGRossetti · 08/01/2018 11:35

EXC: James Brokenshire has resigned from the Cabinet.

Probably getting out of Northern Ireland before the bullets start flying ?

RedToothBrush · 08/01/2018 11:37

Beth Rigby @BethRigby
Considered one of May’s key allies in cabinet - one source tells me he was unpopular with #DUP

re Brokenshire

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LurkingHusband · 08/01/2018 11:42

Just a quick shoutout to RTB saying thanks for the post Sat 06-Jan-18 22:08:04 - sorry I didn't get a chance to flag it before.

Things grind on, my MP has pushed things at the DoH.

I noticed a condition in a contract last week : "EU national status up to December 2020" ... almost No Brits need apply ....

RedToothBrush · 08/01/2018 11:42

Would mr brokenshire have resigned for the surgery on his right lung if there hadnt been a reshuffle?

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