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Westministers: Happy New Year?

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RedToothBrush · 05/01/2018 11:37

And so we enter a New Year full of hope that things might just be about to recover from our national nervous breakdown... or perhaps not.

As we have Damien Green ejected from his role as Deputy PM over allegations of inappropriate conduct towards woman and use of porn at the end of last year, 2018 sees a bright new progressive dawn with the appointment to the role of universities regulator of Toby Young. A man who has deleted 20,000 tweets including many which are inappropriate and offensive to women, is a fan of eugenics and hates the working class and disabled.

Meanwhile the NHS is facing a crisis which is totally unexpected to the government and couldn't possibly have been planned for by a man who has over seen it for over five years. Which naturally bodes really well for Brexit planning.

We are apparently planning to join the TPP. Never mind geopolitics we can move the UK to the Pacific region.

We still are not ready for trade talks because the Cabinet can not agree on anything. Not that it sounds like they have actually discussed anything along these lines yet.

Rumours are that the Cabinet - including arch leavers such as Gove - are leaning towards supporting May and a softer option, despite the disgust of Johnson, who once again is the subject of malicious chatter about his sacking in a forthcoming Cabinet Reshuffle.

There is talk of further Tory Party war with the revelation that membership of the party has dropped to a core of just 70,000 hardline authoritarian men, most of whom are over 60. Tory HQ now wants to (perhaps with some good reason to prevent the loons) rewrite the constitution and limit the power of local associations to select candidates. The Tory party is now lining up to be a power struggle between internal authoritarians, who don't like democracy voices or structure.

Meanwhile the Labour Party membership now apparently overwhelmingly looks upon staying in the customs union and single market favourably and is in favour of a second referendum. In opposition to the leadership who are utterly committed to Hard Brexit. Much to the annoyance of Lord Adonis who is pitching a fit about government corruption and incompetence and being accused of being elite because he going skiing. Unlike of prominent Leavers who are in touch with the working class.

And finally Nigel Farage has got a meeting with Barnier. Farage, unlike Clegg, Clarke and Adonis, will not be accused by the Right Wing Press of undermining the government's negotiating position because...

It appears that we are in for another year of Brexit nonsense then.

We've not even heard mention of Gibraltar yet.

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DGRossetti · 09/01/2018 10:26

For all his other faults, Cameron was able to do this.

having sat 2 yards from Cameron in one of his "Cameron Directs" (at DS's School in 2009) he was actually a pretty good and engaging speaker. I certainly came out believing that he was a European tory (small "t") and that he had a deeper understanding of the UKs history and place in the world than a lot of his contemporaries.

However, at the same talk, I was also aware how incredibly out of touch he was. He wanted to speak about Tory policies for business, education, and the NHS. Every single question was about immigration. And in a horrible portent, the only question about the NHS came from a South African anaesthetist whose main concern was being thrown out in the promised (but never realised) crackdown on immigration.

RedToothBrush · 09/01/2018 10:28

Laura Kuenssberg @bbclaurak
Mark Garnier first minister to go this morning - source says his exit has nothing to do with recent allegations about his behaviour but opening up space for new ministers
3 more ministers on way out - Hayes, Dunne and Goodwill
Govt source confident departures of these male ministers to make way for women will make big difference over time

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RedToothBrush · 09/01/2018 10:34

Mark Garnier is a Brexit Depart Minister.

The department really needs this. It has no problem with a turn over of staff.

One for Suella Fernandes?

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RedToothBrush · 09/01/2018 10:36

Christopher Hope @christopherhope
Senior Tory source tells me by the end of the day between 25 per cent and 30 per cent of ministers will be women and the number of black and minority ethnic ministers will double. #reshuffle

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DGRossetti · 09/01/2018 10:46

3 more ministers on way out - Hayes, Dunne and Goodwill

so Theresa May is losing Goodwill ?

It's hard to remain an atheist with nonsense like this ....

RedToothBrush · 09/01/2018 10:58

Rory Stewart is moving / being sacked. Not clear which. At No 10 now.

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DGRossetti · 09/01/2018 11:01

Rory Stewart is moving / being sacked

My first reading of that was Rod Stewart Grin

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/01/2018 11:41

dg Perhaps she Hayes decided she is Dunne with Goodwill hides to avoid being pelted with rotten fruit

woman11017 · 09/01/2018 11:42

May's not in power. Nature and Realpolitik abhor a vacuum.

RhiannonOHara · 09/01/2018 11:44

woman, so what do you see happening now?

woman11017 · 09/01/2018 11:47

I don't know. But it smells funny.

RhiannonOHara · 09/01/2018 11:49

Out by Easter?

The awful eternal question of course is, if she goes who will step up? There is NO good answer to that.

woman11017 · 09/01/2018 11:54

For as long as Corbyn carries on voting with her, this gov could be in for 5 years, if we have elections in 5 years.

RedToothBrush · 09/01/2018 12:05

Laura K @ bbclaurak
1st appointment - Alok Sharma moves from Housing to become Employment Minister
Dominic Raab to Housing

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BiglyBadgers · 09/01/2018 12:16

The awful eternal question of course is, if she goes who will step up? There is NO good answer to that.

Which is exactly why she is will stay. Until there is an alternative that gets majority support of the party (a party currently divided down the middle) they will keep May. I can't see any of the current cabinet getting that support. Either someone with the mystical ability to make two completely different groups of people happy has to appear or the party will need to shift hard in favour of one side or the other to break the stalemate.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/01/2018 12:20

EU commissioner spokesperson patiently explaining why Davis’ position is bizarre

mobile.twitter.com/PabloPerezA/status/950690715218120704/video/1

RhiannonOHara · 09/01/2018 12:22

Yes, you're right, woman and Bigly. I could shake Jeremy fucking Corbyn. Angry I'd write to my MP about it but guess what, it's Diane Abbott.

Eeeeeowwwfftz · 09/01/2018 12:23

The plan: Keep May in till after Brexit. New leader. General election. Lose to Labour. Brexshit hits the fan. Labour get blamed. Second general election. Tories win every other election until the end of time.

TheElementsSong · 09/01/2018 12:28

Pain

"We are surprised that the UK is surprised that we are preparing for a scenario announced by the UK govt itself"

Grin
HashiAsLarry · 09/01/2018 12:33

I am lead to believe, though can't verify it because it was something DH saw in a betting office near work, that there are good odds on May being out by May. I assume that means TM out by May 2018 and not that she's planning on changing the calendar.

DGRossetti · 09/01/2018 12:35

I wonder how much of this bitcoin surge is due to people trying to outthink Brexit ?

OlennasWimple · 09/01/2018 12:58

Jeremy Vine on R2 just had James Delingpole on defending Toby Young - apparently it was a "twitch hunt" that saw TY having to stand down Hmm

DGRossetti · 09/01/2018 13:11

SmileSmileSmileSmile

www.lapresse.ca/international/europe/201801/09/01-5149361-grande-bretagne-may-acheve-un-remaniement-apres-un-debut-chaotique.php

Theresa May achève mardi le remaniement de son gouvernement en s'attaquant aux postes de secrétaires d'Etat, pour lesquels des profils jeunes, féminins et issus de la diversité sont attendus, après un début assez chaotique.

(contd).

Ah, Theresa, tu es tres exotique, tres magnifique, et ainsi plus ... chaotique

Tanith · 09/01/2018 13:23

They lost Goodwill long ago: I’m surprised they found him long enough to tell him he was sacked.
One of a long line of lacklustre Early Years ministers, he was lazy as a sun-kissed toad with no idea of the brief he’d been given.

It makes him ideal for the Brexit team, if only to make DD look industrious by comparison.

RedToothBrush · 09/01/2018 13:30

Tom Newton Dunn @ tomnewtondunn
Of all the odd decisions in this reshuffle (there are a few), removing development specialist Rory Stewart from DFID/FCO to make him Prisons Minister has to top the lot.

Couldn't agree more. Wtf are they thinking? Unless an issue with Johnson from Johnson's pov.

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