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Now Article 50 is triggered

9 replies

LovelyBath77 · 11/06/2017 21:08

Does this mean we have now left and need to pay up to join in with EU again? Sorry I'm just trying to understand the reality of the situation. And there is no way we can not go through with it now?

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ImperialBlether · 11/06/2017 21:10

No. It's like a divorce. We can withdraw at any time.

ExplodedCloud · 11/06/2017 21:13

No triggering Article 50 indicates a 2 year process of leaving and we negotiate the terms on which we leave in 2019.
There's a possibility we could withdraw our letter and stay but that doesn't look likely.

Topseyt · 11/06/2017 21:26

Article 50 being triggered does not mean we have left the EU. It simply starts the clock ticking on a two year process of negotiations. After the two years are up then we are out of the EU unless an extension is agreed or it is agreed that we can cancel it if we wish to.

TreaterAnita · 11/06/2017 21:29

Whether the Art 50 notification can be withdrawn now it's been given as is a v hot topic of constitutional legal debate. The consensus is that it can be withdrawn if all 28 member states agree, but not clear whether we could do it unilaterally. Whether there would be the political will for that I don't know, would probably now require a bill to be passed after the Miller decision. But we have wasted 3 months of the 2 years we have to negotiate already, and now have a minority government, so not beyond the bounds of possibility.

Topseyt · 11/06/2017 21:31

Yes, we can still go through with it. It is a matter of what deal Theresa May's weak and wobbly (rather than strong and stable) government can come up with after this spectacular own goal of a General Election.

Topseyt · 11/06/2017 21:35

It is a fairly short article. I read it a while ago and couldn't see anything in the wording which stated that it couldn't be withdrawn or cancelled once triggered. It said nothing specific about that at all.

I would guess though that all member states might want to agree on that if it came to it.

TreaterAnita · 11/06/2017 21:57

Sorry, editing fail.

It is a fairly short article. I read it a while ago and couldn't see anything in the wording which stated that it couldn't be withdrawn or cancelled once triggered. It said nothing specific about that at all.

I think that's the point, it's not v well drafted, they didn't envisage the possibility that a MS might change its mind. The fact that it's silent on withdrawal doesn't mean you can do it, at least not without agreement.

TreaterAnita · 11/06/2017 21:58

Oh, the messed up reply I was apologising for didn't post, now I look like more of a dick...Grin

LovelyBath77 · 12/06/2017 11:02

On the EU side, they do say they didn't want us to leave, so may be willing to have us retract it..

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