Westminster: Brexit is the hard right's weapon of mass distraction

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The fervour and divisions over Brexit have suspended normal party politics.

The staggering incompetence & unsuitability of Corbyn as a leader, together with the resulting impotence of Labour has removed the normal checks & balances in UK politics.
There is a vaccum where the Official Opposition should be, so Theresa May is under pressure only from her right.

I fear Thereas May and the Tory rightwing are taking advantage of Brexit to complete the destruction of the post-WW2 social contract and the welfare state.

Meanwhile, the constraints of civilised discourse have been loosened and those with racist or social Darwinist views now feel free to spout their poison openly.

Putin is pouring petrol on all the fires and Arron Banks is lurking < sinister emoticons required >

Zoe Williams:
"Behind a smokescreen of bogus patriotism, ideologically driven cuts to the NHS and all our public services are unpicking the bonds of nationhood"

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/05/brexit-theresa-may-falklands-war-nhs-cuts

"We should be marching against the crisis in adult social care, the closure of care homes, the systematic exploitation of carers, the £4.6bn cut from social care budgets this decade.
We should be .... asking:

“What exactly is the plan, if we’ve decided we can no longer afford to care for the elderly and the disabled?
What do we do with them instead?”

"We should be marching against cuts in education funding"

"Every morning we wake up to someone on the radio explaining, despairingly, that you can’t fix the hospital bed crisis until social care is fixed, and you can’t fix that until council tax brings in more, and it can’t bring in more because wages are too low."

"But when everything breaks at the same time, that is not a coincidence: it is a plan.

As surely as Margaret Thatcher had an economic plan on employment, rights, industry and wages,
this century’s Conservatives have a plan on public services, which is to smash them beyond all recognition."

Redpoll. Sadly I think you are for real. The empire was indeed marvellous .... for a very select few. The rest of us had to deal with the warcrimes fallout and methods (abuse through churches, schools etc) used to control us.

Divide and rule but whinge royally when the serfs give up.

Christ, they're really in a panic about something aren't they?

It saddens me when our own countrymen have gave their lives for this country and you seem Respondent that a minority group is unfairly treated because of that?

Give it a rest and let's put it another way-If you are fat at school you get picked on. Don't make you a bad person but by god if are the fat one you wish you was anything but that.

Here is redpoll apparently (I say apparently, because it's a bit incoherent) saying that abuse of foreigners and fat people is justifiable. Not racist at all though .

You dont even have to scratch them.

"when our own countrymen have gave their lives for this country "

They were packed off to senseless wars, often against their own will and their widows/descendants impoverished and preyed upon by the bastards who made financial killings off it. Often they were from disliked minority groups, nearly always poor- it was a very convenient 'David and Uriah' situation. Then they get blamed for their ignorance and poverty and have it done all over again.

Missing in translation?

I genuinely don't think Google translate would make that many grammar errors.

Blimey. Its not even subtle any more is it? Someone is definitely threatened enough.

abuse of foreigners and fat people is justifiable but not the other way around don't forget. Those types should know their places.

I genuinely don't think Google translate would make that many grammar errors. I'm sure a genuine mner would have figured out how to quote by now though.

I see Heseltine has been revenge-sacked - from posts that (as far as I can tell) are nothing to do with brexit. No dissent will be permitted.

Do we have a list of Thatcher administration grandees with whom lefties like me are now sharing a bed? Clark, Major, Heseltine, Patten, Nott. Who else?

And we talk about guilt by association lol.

Bit spooky in here last night.

Happy international women's day!! ⭐️

Right, I'm off to smash the patriarchy

Laters x

Red...
R U ok Hun?

Happy international women's day

I've had a gift already today. Someone on my fb posted on my wall about how he loved women and celebrated them everyday then went on to mansplain activism to me .

Maggie Thatchers old chronies talking more sense than most of the current crop on all sides. No rabbit hole here!

Happy international women's day, to all the women on here!
Have a great one Badders!

Something's spooked 'em, keep at the good work all of us
They are not happy about losing Ireland. Direct rule then another election in NI on the cards, SF could easily get more seats?

Heseltine could create a rebel army, he'd love that, look what happened last time.

The old Tories at least had brains and conviction in what they were doing.

If the mercenaries are doing overtime here, I wonder how much the ones who have mastered French are doing. Happy international women's day to the French resistance too!
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/08/french-presidential-elections-marine-le-pen

I am genuinely interested in the calibre of history courses a few people here took in the course of their education.

My questions are based on this comment from Slippery - 'Many of you have personal issues with the UK [sic] are not british' - from the previous thread.

It is actually completely logical to assert that people who went ahead and voted Leave after the Farage anti-immigrant poster and the murder of Jo Cox were indifferent to both.

What alternative conclusion do you think should be drawn - that Leavers rejected Nigel Farage and everything he stands for? That Leavers wanted nothing to do with the sort of person who was motivated by xenophobia?

A quote from the farmer interviewed in the France24 link upthread:
'Britain always had a cheap food policy and that's what they will do again. There is no way they will look after their own agriculture, especially somebody in the north of Ireland who they don't really care about.'
He is correct.

No cheaper food than food from the factory farms of the Carolinas.

Motheroffourdragons
46% of US did not vote at all in last election.
Do Fillon and Macron have good grass roots activism to get the vote out?
I'd drive over and do lifts!

I would describe myself centrist too. Although I'm more left leaning than I was last June!

I am the same - but after June thought that I had to do something and rejoined a political party after 30 years or so away and became active, and have started going on demonstrations again. I thought my demonstrating days were over. Strange times indeed when my political bedfellows are people like Heseltine and Major.

It is actually completely logical to assert that people who went ahead and voted Leave after the Farage anti-immigrant poster and the murder of Jo Cox were indifferent to both

What a disgusting thing to say.

The Overton window hasn't just shifted, it's a whole different shape.