FT reported Remain voters bully Brexit voter at work place

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PwC, the consultancy, is advising four London companies whose pro-Brexit staff have complained of being ostracised as a result of angry social media posts and office discussions about the vote.

Not just on mumsnet...

And how is it possible that these poor Brexiters might be able sue for bullying.

You guessed it, an EU directive.

bullying and harassment for one's beliefs is so wrong anywhere - there is enough of it here on mn, twitter and the dreaded FB - and it could be construed as a 'hate crime' by any definition. The only thing is - never ever disclose your political, religious beliefs outside your home or immediate family

sorry - should be considered a 'hate incident' rather than a 'hate crime' as it is against a person's belief and no actual crime is taking place. .

Tiggy
"Political beliefs are not covered by the protection from harassment for philosophical beliefs"
Does that mean if a Tory voter attacks a Labour voter or vice versa in the workplace because of how they vote, then there is no redress?

Thank you for answering my question, Tiggy.
I don't completely understand that harassment for political beliefs isn't covered since as you say anti bullying legisalation could be used instead.

What is and isn't a philosophical belief is a bit of a moving target. The test is that it is a seriously held belief that significantly impacts on how you lead your daily life and that doesn't denigrate the fundamental rights and freedoms of others.

It wasn't meant to include 'political' beliefs when the Act was originally drawn up, but in practice, there isn't really a clear dintinction between the two.

Tribunals have decided in past cases that 'philosophical belief' includes eg a belief in 'the tenets of socialism', 'the values of public service broadcasting', 'the politics of campaigning for climate change' etc.

I'm sure a strongly held view that eg the EU is a supranational organisation would be a philosophical belief. An 'immigrants out' type of leaver would not qualify for protection because their belief would not respect the fundamental rights of others to dignity in a free society.

Figment, that is very interesting.
Do you know what the tribunal is called? I'd be interested to google it.

Yep, I guess there will be some manic social media deletions. It got extremely nasty on BOTH sides. That said calling people racist was so offensive and remainers seemed to thrive on it. Ah well...now for the payback.

That said calling people racist was so offensive and remainers seemed to thrive on it.

Was it more offensive to call people racist than to actually have experienced racism? Was it more or less offensive to say that people reporting racism were making it up, or exaggerating, or even revelling in it, simply because they might have voted differently?

Does it matter which is worse?

Both are wrong.

Do you say sexual assault isn't a big deal because rape is worse?

Of course both are wrong, but are pro-leave newspapers going to report the rise in racism as well as the above cases of workplace bullying?

Do you say sexual assault isn't a big deal because rape is worse?

Did I say anywhere that either were acceptable, let alone something as repulsive as this? Of course both are wrong FFS. Workplace bullying is wrong.

More broadly though, do people genuinely consider it equivalent to be nonspecifically accused of racist sympathies (see threads passim) and to have "Polish scum" notes through one's letterbox, or to have abuse shouted directly at oneself while walking down the street, that sort of thing? How do we feel with regards to blithe dismissals of people's accounts of racist abuse as "made up" - is that OK in the grand scheme of things? Or perhaps someone could reassure me that I imagined all those posts on here or, maybe, I made them up?

tiggy I think we are in complete agreement. Workplace bullying, whether "general" or "targeted" is just wrong.

It was some other posts that I could not agree with, perhaps because I can't help but remember a certain amount of strategic "absence" in relation to other threads over the past few weeks.