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to ask has your life changed since brexit ?

256 replies

mrsfuzzy · 24/07/2016 09:04

seems months ago since it all kicked off but only a few weeks in reality, wider society aside, has brexit changed your life a/ perhaps you've moved/in process of, changed work etc. for us nothing has changed but i'm interested in other mners [don't want to cause a punch up over the remains and leaves - that's been, gone and tired].

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practy · 24/07/2016 12:12

So everyone saying they have personally experienced an increase in racism or xenophobia is lying?

RueDeDay · 24/07/2016 12:14

I work in the public sector. My organisation has never before had a redundancy policy, we have always put staff in redeployment pools to guarantee their continued employment even if the job they do changes. We are now developing a redundancy policy as a direct result of Brexit.

scoobyloobyloo · 24/07/2016 12:15

I work in FE and we will lose 10-15% of our annual funding annually when we leave, this is in addition to the 40% cuts we have seen over the last 7 years.

So if you have kids and think this doesn't affect you, I can promise you, it will...

eurochick · 24/07/2016 12:17

I work for a law firm. There has been a huge drop off in activity. I suspect that is reflected across the board as anecdotally I am hearing about a lower deal flow. I'm not expecting anyone to get their violins out for the lawyers but deals = investment. So fewer deals means less building, less expansion of business, fewer jobs, etc. I hope things pick up but uncertainty is the worst thing for business and we are facing years of uncertainty.

Helmetbymidnight · 24/07/2016 12:21

Guys, guys, brexit is just a great excuse for job losses that we're going to happen anyway apparently.

Anyway who cares, as the non racist leavers like to say it's better to be poor and free than live in the eu superstate.

CannotEvenDeal · 24/07/2016 12:23

My Eastern European friend was told to "Fuck off back home" at sports day just after the vote.

My holiday bookings in Europe have gone up a fair bit Sad

ARumWithAView · 24/07/2016 12:25

I get the feeling some are hoping for disaster so they can say 'I told you so' and further attack those of an opposing view

So sick of seeing this trotted out whenever anyone dares mention negative consquences.

You think anyone is happy to lose their job, lose funding, experience racism... because the big payoff is they get to say 'I told you so' to other people who never have and (judging from your response) never will listen?

specialsubject · 24/07/2016 12:26

I repeat: the vote did not give anyone a free pass to be racist.

And of course we don't know how a racist votes, or even if they did vote.

WE need to stamp out these attitudes by challenging them, reporting them (racism is illegal), shunning all racists and not breeding more.

CauliflowerBalti · 24/07/2016 12:30

My business is in the middle of negotiating a contract with a German company. Negotiations began pre-Brexit. They have no choice but to use a UK-based firm so on that level it is OK, but they're asking for more securities, the contract is becoming more restrictive and it is generally clear that they are concerned about our ongoing ability to deliver/stay afloat.

Which is nice.

Helmetbymidnight · 24/07/2016 12:31

You think repeating it makes it so?

Weird.

NavyandWhite · 24/07/2016 12:34

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JassyRadlett · 24/07/2016 12:35

Nothing has changed. Not seen any racism

Lucky you.

FithColumnist · 24/07/2016 12:40

I was talking to a friemd in French when an older gentleman sneered "I don't know what you're so happy about, you'll all be deported soon." Having been born here to British parents, I replied (in a broad midlands accent) that I didn't know what he was so happy about, as he'll be dead soon. Which I recognise was a really horrible thing to say, and very out of character for me Sad

ClassicCoast · 24/07/2016 12:42

Think you might have to repeat that many more times specialsubject as the racists by me have been busy commiting public acts of racism post vote - you know almost like they felt the vote sos give them a free pass.

I don't think your specialsubject is racism or history - I am confident I know how the racists voted, well apart from those confused by the form.

mrsfuzzy · 24/07/2016 12:51

i was out the other day and [this is relevant] a young black man was screaming at a group of polish lads to 'fuck off home, you fucking foreigners' police were involved and he was advised to be 'mindful of his use of words' ??? it was horrible to witness and i felt so embarrassed for the lads on the receiving end of it.

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JennyOnAPlate · 24/07/2016 12:54

Not yet, although we're about to put our house on the market so ask me again in a few weeks!

ButteredToastAndStrawberryJam · 24/07/2016 13:02

Lucky you. I live in a very diverse Midlands city too.

ilovesooty · 24/07/2016 13:05

Yes. Like a pp my charity is partly funded by the EU. There has been a restructure and several redundancies already.

TheElementsSong · 24/07/2016 13:12

DH and I both work in a university.

Apparently a lot of foreign students, both EU and non-EU, have said they will be going elsewhere. Racist graffiti was daubed in the toilets of several buildings around campus.

Only one of DH's research grants is from the ERC and is already underway, so no effect for now, but it will not be renewed after the grant period. Overall, the loss of EU research funding (approx 15% across the whole country) will mean even tighter competition for the remaining sources of funding for our scientists.

A number of colleagues/friends have experienced Brexit-related racism.

But, y'know, all these things would have happened anyway, or were made up, because the most important thing for Remainers is to say "I told you so" Hmm.

ARumWithAView · 24/07/2016 13:17

No, the vote didn't give anyone a free pass to be racist. But the UKIP-led rhetoric about 'taking our country back', clamping down on immigration, and stopping all this dreadful 'political correctness', combined with Leave then winning the referendum, has clearly encouraged people with racist or xenophobic beliefs to feel more confident about expressing them.

I know racist views are repugnant to moderate Brexiters, but it's disingenuous to act like the Leave campaign didn't capitalise on this attitude, and that all the subsequent 'the silent majority have spoken!' and 'suck it, losers!' triumphalism hasn't stoked people up further. And it's even more evasive to claim that:

a) increased racial harrassment isn't happening, because I haven't seen it.
b) it is happening, but that's always been a problem, and we should just clamp down on it rather than acknowledging any Brexit link.
c) well, maybe the racists didn't even vote Leave; we'll never know. Given that the BNP and EDL and essentially every far-right racist group supported Brexit, I think we can say with confidence that Brexit won the racist vote. (Most racist voters supported Brexit ≠ all Brexit voters are racist.)

RufusTheReindeer · 24/07/2016 13:27

My post wasnt dismissive at all Hmm

The question was how has it affected you

My answer was it hasnt yet

how is that dismissive?

BertrandRussell · 24/07/2016 13:48

Can anyone tell me anecdotes about how things have got better post the vote? I would genunely like to hear some.

SlimCheesy2 · 24/07/2016 13:53

My job is based around providing support to charities and small businesses who receive EU funding. I have had a couple of my own contracts cancalled outright (about £15,000 worth of business) and others in the pipeline 'put on hold'.

I am feeling it because the company DH worked for went bust a few months ago and he is unemployed and we were relying on my income going up rather than down.

We have some savings thank heavens, but it is worrying, although not critical yet.

Lillagroda · 24/07/2016 13:53

I saw a direct impact on my life by the next day, but was made to feel on several occasions like I was "overreacting" and of course "scaremongering", so quite quickly learned to keep my thoughts to myself.

Objectively - I work for a company whose entire activity is in the UK. Its share price went down sharply, and has now settled 21.5% down on pre-referendum levels. We've all worked incredibly hard to grow this business over the seven years I have worked for it and pull it out of the last recession, so it's gutting to see.
This will likely get worse unless the sterling recovers as our pre-bought cash runs out and our imports become more expensive - either we take a hit on profits, or the consumer takes a hit on price.
My employer also is within the house building sector, so yeah, not looking great. The worry is after the end of this year, when the house builder contracts risk drying up - we'll suffer.
Consequently, we had a recruitment freeze on from day + 1, which has meant I had to reject a great, British, 62-year-old candidate who I was about to offer a job to. I hope he can find something else given his age. Redundancies are also on the table.
Personally, I lost £6,500 from the share price dropping. I'm not yet sure of the impact on my pension.

And finally, in 13 years, I have never once felt like going home, or felt scared to speak my mother tongue in public (I have zero accent and a British name since marrying, so usually am incognito unless I actually tell people I am an EU migrant), but now I feel utterly rejected and like going back is appealing - even though I haven't lived there since I was 20 years old, i.e. half my life. I can't justify uprooting my husband and moving him far away from his family though so it won't happen.

esornep · 24/07/2016 13:57

Only one of DH's research grants is from the ERC and is already underway, so no effect for now, but it will not be renewed after the grant period.

ERC grants are not in any case renewable - you can apply for Advanced Grants again, but I would not call this "renewing".

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