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Why did your area vote as it did?

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3amEternal · 04/07/2016 20:31

I voted remain and was quite shocked that my area voted so strongly for leave. Shocked as we border London and jobs are plentiful, house prices are high which has benefitted our high proportion of baby boomers. Trying to understand I think the following factor in: high proportion of older conservative voters (labour has never been 'in'), high proportion of Eastern European young families coupled with overcrowded and poorly funded schools, lack of investment in housing, crumbling infrastructure and poorly kept communal areas (where they have been unable to sell them off they let them go). I cannot think of a single EU funded project in the entire area so I don't think people have seen any 'visible' benefit. This is all the fault of central and local government of course but I bet the Tory MP who has been useless for years and doesn't even live in the area gets voted back in. Just musings really...

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TempsPerdu · 19/10/2016 17:05

North London borough, 56% Remain. It's a very diverse, multicultural borough, though not at all 'North London' in the liberal chattering classes sense - there's a lot of deprivation (some of the most deprived wards in the country) and quite a transient population in places.

I'm an ardent Remainer and wasn't surprised that Remain won here, but I think the fact that our Remain vote was less resounding than in many other areas of London is due to a relatively large elderly population and also the fact that there's still a large white working class contingent (lots of tradespeople) who dislike large-scale immigration and feel they're losing out to immigrants in the jobs market. We border areas of Herts and Essex which are traditional 'white flight' areas from London, and which voted overwhelmingly to Leave - historically there's a pattern of disgruntled, more conservatively-minded Londoners moving out to these areas, because they regard themselves as having being 'forced out' by incoming immigrants.

GloriaGaynor · 19/10/2016 18:04

75% Remain.

Wealthy SW London suburb, majority educated middle class professionals.

StarOnTheTree · 19/10/2016 18:32

Small North East seaside town, about 68% voted leave I think, maybe more. The industries here have all disappeared so unemployment is high. The area is predominantly white working class but with little work in the area people are feeling hopeless and I expect many used it as a protest vote. There is evidence of EU funding in the form of a fancy new seafront. But what people want is to work, to support themselves and their families.

And if you think that people are not prepared to do jobs that immigrants do you are so wrong. What people want is to be paid a fair wage and to have real contracts. When you have a family to support you can't do unpredictable work (e.g. 0 hour contracts) because it messes with benefits. Many people are claiming benefits because the mines and the industries closed. To retrain costs money that people don't have which is an absolute travesty when we have skills shortages in the UK.

At first glance it looks like a lot of people are racist (and some are) but I think they're mostly just scared. If the area can't support the people who already live here then how can more people live here? And they can't move because house prices here are dirt cheap and they couldn't buy elsewhere on their salaries/benefits.

bottleofredplease · 19/10/2016 18:40

70% remain. Tolerant, young, educated seaside in the south coast.

Peregrina · 19/10/2016 20:09

StarOnTheTree - I am sure you are right, except it will be your local councils which bid for the EU money for the seafront. So it's up to them to start bidding for money for jobs. This should be easy - Theresa May has told us she wants a country which works for all. That was a few weeks ago, and I suspect that she's forgotten that now.

GraceGrape · 20/10/2016 00:47

65% leave. Essex - say no more.

JassyRadlett · 20/10/2016 01:12

EU energy policies causing big problems and job losses

Curious to know which energy policies?

smallfox2002 · 20/10/2016 07:50

most EU policies on energy are actually international agreements, with the laws adopted by EU countries. The Paris climate change agreement for example.

They won't be going anywhere after we leave.

JassyRadlett · 20/10/2016 09:52

Indeed - which is why I'm so curious.

It's up there with my MIL voting Leave because she doesn't like the Common Agricultural Policy (but only as it stood before decoupling as she didn't like the EU telling us what food to produce).

When we told her how the CAP had changed over the last 15-20 years it turns out she was fine with it in its current form. Pity she hadn't chosen to inform herself on the issue before she voted if that was the basis of her vote.

shirleyknotanotherbot · 20/10/2016 10:18

Nice midlands town with grammar schools, v posh public school, Tory MP (a remainer). Can't remember the exact figures now but was around 52-48 to leave.

Imo - which more than likely based on remoaner sour grapes and I should accept that we lost ('we' sure did):

  • many people read DM, DE, DT, Sun
  • many people listen to people who read the above.
  • we have a small but significant population of anti Tory previous Labour voters who seem to think their lives are shit.
  • we have a large population of elderly racists who think that life was better in the 1950s (including my dad who is his 80s).
  • There are (probably) a few anti-globalists, anti capitalists,
shirleyknotanotherbot · 20/10/2016 10:19

Sorry, pressed post too early. Had a few more suggestions about Daniel Hannan fans, etc.

Bitter & twisted? Moi?

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 20/10/2016 11:08

55% leave.

Multi cultural, mixed wealth, area middle England.

Mix of age ranges but mainly under 50.

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 21/10/2016 10:54

My area was 55% leave

The more "run down" town next to us was 63% leave

No idea why ours was 55%. Down on the south coast...relatively well off, but maybe that is just my village not the area as a whole.

Daily mail always sells rapidly if thats any marker

RufusTheSpartacusReindeer · 21/10/2016 10:54

Oh tory town as well

StorminaBcup · 04/11/2016 18:32

57:43 to remain. Trafford is a pretty mixed area; young, old, poor, rich has both Tory and Labour strongholds. I know of people who voted leave and people who voted remain which were equally surprising.

PuppetInParadize · 05/11/2016 00:42

Englandshire borders my area and I still can't believe they've voted us out. Did I tell you i am cutting contact with Brexit BIL. His loss obvs.

wealdenmonkey · 05/11/2016 02:00

55% remain and 45% leave here. And in Tunbridge Wells, which may surprise people given its "Disgusted of..." association.

However, the area is strongly in the orbit of That London, which I think explains the result. Residents break down between Commuters (well-paid, professional, work up in "Town", probably lived there when they were younger) and Locals (work locally, not well-paid, locally born and bred, some have never been to London even though it's 40 miles away).

Anecdotal, but all the Commuters I know voted remain and all the Locals voted Leave. Polarisation is scary.

TheWoodlander · 05/11/2016 02:08

My area voted 55% leave, I was surprised (and haven't stopped being surprised since. We live in a very safe tory seat, fairly affluent, SE area, commuter belt.

Anecdotally, our neighbour told us he voted leave because of "all the muslims, and he can't get an appointment at the hospital" - so there you go.

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 05/11/2016 15:50

My London borough voted to remain just under 70%

Voter turnout 63%

I struggle to understand why London had one of the lowest turnout for voters in the country it's not like anyone has to travel far to get to polling station

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 05/11/2016 15:51

And I voted to remain

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 05/11/2016 16:07

London borough I live in is strong hold labour area quite a poor borough mainly working class but is rapidly changing as house prices and rents rise changing the demographic of the borough. Lots of young families. High number of BME not such high number from the EU.

CroakingCrocus · 05/11/2016 16:18

71% remain. Inner London borough, very high levels of immigration and very mixed economically.

Itisnoteasybeingdifferent · 06/11/2016 09:01

Live in Essex,
The countryside is being covered in new housing estates to accommodate the effects of polulation change ans immigration. There are. ot enough GP's to serve the population. The roads are overloaded, The hospitals are overloaded. The trains are overcrowded. House prices are ten times affordable on local earnings.

Yet we don't have the money to address these problems.

divineinterruption · 06/11/2016 12:03

My area voted leave. It surprised me but thinking about it now, I shouldn't have been that surprised. This is in South East (not London), with a lot of income inequality (many are very wealthy, many very poor, few are in the middle), good education levels, mainly older generation, little immigration, no real job prospects but house prices still completely out of reach for average income earners. I believe it was the older people voting to leave because - rightly or wrongly- they think it will guarantee a return to pre-EU opportunities for all. And I believe many younger people voted for change. When you have no prospects and nothing you can afford in terms of stable life in your home county, why would you just vote for more of the same. But also - judging by a very active community FB page, despite low immigration levels, people have been very scared of the potential negative effects of immigration. And when I say immigration, they usually include anyone who isn't at least 3rd generation from our little area.................

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