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Backtracking Boris caught out as liar.

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HappydaysArehere · 27/06/2016 20:10

So there you are all those who voted Leave. Boris is backtracking as he bumbles away as usual talking about free movement and trade. So what was voted for? Now, apparently and horrifically, he is on the verge of being prime minister. Once more people seem completely unaware of his devious, manipulative, self seeking, personality. He was useless as Mayor, now, just when we need someone who will work their socks off for this Country and really know what to do to get us out of an ever growing mess, there is a strong possibility that he will get what he aimed for at the expense of the well being of Britain. Shame, shame, shame.

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AnotherPrickInTheWall · 27/06/2016 21:23

I voted to leave for many reasons but not for a moment taken in by Boris.
I did hear on Radio 4 a few weeks back that he had another speech prepared in the event the " Leave" voters won.
What a cowardly spineless attention seeker he is, but I think this is the case for a good many MP's trying to further their careers without any real consideration for the welfare of their country and it's inhabitants.

Capricorn76 · 27/06/2016 21:26

He (and Gove) couldn't even be bothered to turn up at the Commons today. Is he planning to run the country via his Telegraph column?

clam · 27/06/2016 21:26

Oh look. The thread police have arrived.

ManonLescaut · 27/06/2016 21:27

Brussels Rejects Boris Pipe Dream

The Brexit leader, who is the favourite to succeed David Cameron as prime minister, claimed that Britain would remain a member of the EU’s single market while introducing a points-based immigration system to limit the right of EU citizens to work in Britain.

British people would still be able to live, travel, study and buy homes on the continent but the same rights would not be automatically extended to EU citizens in the UK, he wrote. Britain would also be freed from sending “a substantial sum of money” to the EU budget, which he said “could” be used for the NHS.

Johnson insisted the only change – “and it will not come in any great rush – is that the UK will extricate itself from the EU’s extraordinary and opaque system of legislation”.

EU diplomats reacted witheringly to the idea that the UK could stay in the single market without following the rules.

“It is a pipe dream,” said the EU diplomat. “You cannot have full access to the single market and not accept its rules. If we gave that kind of deal to the UK, then why not to Australia or New Zealand. It would be a free-for-all.”

A second EU diplomat said: “There are no preferences, there are principles and the principle is ‘no pick and choose’.”

The diplomat stressed that participating in the single market meant accepting EU rules, including the jurisdiction of the European court of justice, monitoring by the European commission and accepting the primacy of EU law over national law – conditions that will be anathema to leave advocates who campaigned on the mantra “take back control”.

ManonLescaut · 27/06/2016 21:29

I voted to leave for many reasons but not for a moment taken in by Boris

So you voted knowing he was lying, had no leave plan, and would likely be the next PM?

RainYourRottingMyDhaliaBulbs · 27/06/2016 21:32

I don't feel conned either I have not heard anything or read anything that would lead me to feel that.

A huge event has taken place of course there is going to be some chaos, I would expect it.

Where I did not expect chaos however was from the Eu that has been formed for a long time and we have been a part of for 43 years.

One would have expected a sleek, machine with top minds covering all sorts of topics in place to deal with all sorts of crisis. We have however had nothing but chaos from the EU.

RainYourRottingMyDhaliaBulbs · 27/06/2016 21:33

My vote was never based on boris or any character associated with leave.

not sure what people expected?

AnotherPrickInTheWall · 27/06/2016 21:34

"I accept the status quo has to change. But I believe a lot of vote leavers were voting for jobs, housing and public services. I believe they we must be given what we were promised. I suspect this may be harder outside the EU, but if so, so be it. It still has to be done. It had to be done anyway."

I agree, I think the future would become even bleaker if we had voted to remain in the EU.

WaitroseTrolley · 27/06/2016 21:35

The EU have said no negotiations can take place until we start Article 50, I'm not sure how that is chaotic?

Whiteplate1 · 27/06/2016 21:46

Another thread to hide

SanityClause · 27/06/2016 21:50

British Parliament is a lot older than the treaty of Rome, Rain. Why are you forgiving chaos in the UK, but not (perceived) chaos in the EU?

MangoMoon · 27/06/2016 21:52

Another thread to hide

I find if I don't post on a thread it's much easier to ignore, because it doesn't then pop up in 'threads I'm on'.

HTH!

IonaMumsnet · 27/06/2016 21:55

Hi all,

After a great many requests, we're moving the bulk of the referendum threads to the new board here.

Many of you, understandably, want to discuss this subject at length and in detail - this seems a good way to simultaneously keep AIBU and Chat moving for those who don't wish to participate. Of course, the conversations will still appear in Active.

DecaffCoffeeAndRollupsPlease · 27/06/2016 22:01

People who voted leave were voting to leave the EU. That was the only question on the ballot paper. I wish people would stop trying to infer that we vote for xxx or against xxx.
Lots of leave voters are being vocal about the fact that the voted based on the campaign promises and that that is what they expect, demand, should happen now.
So many people are going to not get what they wanted, not just the remainers, which is going to make for an angry electorate. It's right that that anger be directed towards the lying politicians who created this situation.

CaptainCrunch · 27/06/2016 22:07

I don't have any problem with the referendum threads in aibu. They're better than all the shitty manipulative troll threads that normally clutter it up.

ssd · 27/06/2016 22:11

I agree, AIBU is perfect for the referendum threads, much better than the usual shite....MIL wants to see new baby AIBU.....

InShockReally · 27/06/2016 22:19

It's the biggest thing to happen in most of our lifetimes- people are going to post about it.

This. MNHQ, your stance feels somewhat patronising - like we should only really talk as women about things like cats or shopping or MILs.

Not, you know, economic crises or anything - that's serious stuff. You don't talk about it in public - a bit like feminism.

"By all means go for it but keep it hidden over there will you, I'm bored and it puts the rest of us right off our Penis Beaker threads." Hmm

ThisIsStartingToBoreMe · 27/06/2016 22:21

I was voting to leave the EU - not for Boris to be PM.

Boris and Nigel have served their purpose now, they can crawl back under the stones they came from.

ThisIsStartingToBoreMe · 27/06/2016 22:24

Do people honestly believe that people voted leave so that Boris could become PM? Leavers used Boris, not the other way round.

The british electorate won't stand for him in the role, and if they have no choice, he will be there for the absolute minimum amount of time until there is another general election

CreepyPasta · 27/06/2016 22:25

I agree, I've been lurking for ages and it's made me start posting!

MangoMoon · 27/06/2016 22:37

Agree with others & especially what InShockReally said.

Like we must talk about politics in hushed tones, hidden away so we don't appear unfeminine.

Worrying our pretty little heads about something other than fucking parking spaces.

MangoMoon · 27/06/2016 22:40

Women!

Know your limits!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w

HappydaysArehere · 27/06/2016 23:49

Capricorn and hotmail it's good to hear that I am not alone in wondering how the hell he gets away with it all. It's out there in the public domain but outside London people seem generally unaware. Inside Parliament they know but have got a feeling that they let him get away with things because people find him charismatic and likely to attract votes. His antics will leave a sour taste once the penny drops! Lord Rothermere. You are so right, his lies and career machinations amount to criminality. Our poor country will never fully recover so any talk of him being the best we can be offered as PM makes me sick to my stomach.

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babybythesea · 27/06/2016 23:52

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=-a6HNXtdvVQ

Hope the link works.

A bit of light relief.

DecaffCoffeeAndRollupsPlease · 28/06/2016 01:33

Not, you know, economic crises or anything - that's serious stuff. You don't talk about it in public - a bit like feminism.

Feels like we're being relegated to a corner, so that ordinary decent people can go about as though nothing has happened. And, if we worry or thinking too much about it we're overthinking, catastophising, or have an anxiety disorder.

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