If the nation doesn't vote with your choice on Thursday, what will you do on Friday?

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I will accept it.

I think you have missed the point.
The point is that EU nationals are NOT illegal immigrants. They ALL are living in this country and have followed the rules of immigration to this country. Calling them 'illegal' immigrants is a LIE.

Then, you can only 'soften' the rule if you have a rule in the first place! The fact he is talking about 'softening it' is saying exactely what I was saying earlier on. That the message was very clearly to send ALL EU nationals back home regardless of how long they have lived here, whether they are married to British national etc etc.
And of course this is forgetting that, once the 'rules' for immigration has been set up, it is likely that a lot of those people would be allowed anyway (eg by marriage to a UK national).

Plato, you are great.

I'm only just voting one way over the other so I'm not too fussed if 'my' side doesn't win. I will not be bothered and won't give it much thought.

Cry

Sign up for citizen class to set the ball rolling on obtaining a eu passport of the country I live in.

Resign myself to either a 25% cut in salary or losing my job (not speculation ... This will happen).

Signing the renovation contract with my builders to do work on my home as it will need to go on the market due to the looming job loss/25% salary reduction.

Feel terribly sad that the country I love has made a disastrous decision that will NOT result in a 50s English utopia but suffering and economy disaster.

Get annoyed if the papers keep harping on about mass immigration when we had the chance to control our borders and threw it away.

Laugh when the lefties get het up about building being done on the green belt land as we need more houses, hospitals, schools etc.

Move back to the country where I was born.

Sit back and watch the country become an economic basket case.

This is the best thing I have read on the referendum. It's an interview on a US based site with David Runciman (Professor of Politics at Cambridge, and columnist for Guardian.) I'd say it is non-hysterical, truly objective, and very, very insightful.

www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2016/06/david_runciman_on_the_brexit_vote_and_how_it_will_affect_the_uk_and_europe.html

I plan to vote LEAVE, I suspect he will vote REMAIN. I still think this is the best analysis so far and indicates the troubles ahead either way the vote goes.

I will be disappointed but accept it. A lot of people I know though are voting OUT, I am an IN voter so we shall see what happens if OUT get their way.

Disappointed, but will console myself, like all the Remainers in my postcode, with the predicted solidity of the housing market and rub my hands in glee.

I think the Remain vote is utterly cowardly and self-serving.

Wow, that's pretty heavy accusation.
A person earning £100k might moan that they "pay more in taxes" into the UK system than they ever get back. But I think it's a good thing, because A) they can afford to pay a lot in taxes, and B) the £100k person gets back all the benefits of living in a society with a decent welfare safety net.

So I don't have any problem with UK paying in more money to EU than it gets back. This is a Good thing for social justice and political stability, making our region (Europe) overall more prosperous.

If that makes me a selfish coward, so be it.

(*My actual salary is only about £30k, btw).

Llikk- loads of people pay more than they every get back I think.

We pay a high amount of tax. We don't benefit from hardly any of it . We pay extra for private health care and schooling as I think the NHS and most schooling is of a shit standard frankly.

I'll be slightly bemused, I think. Still haven't decided what to vote. I think both sides are getting slightly hysterical tbh. Life will go on.

You are exactly my point, Art. If someone objects to the EU membership then they probably don't believe in a progressive taxation system, either. Another example is Margaret Thatcher's vision of how the poll tax should work, too (same charge to the person living in a castle as the person in a hovel).

The academic evidence is compelling that the rich are among those who benefit most from a more equitable society, because then the rich aren't in constant insecurity about protecting their relatively privileged position from the less well-off. This is why redistribution of wealth benefits everyone.

But if you prefer short-term gains over long term insecurity, then fair enough. We each get 1 vote.

Cry and worry about whether I'll lose my home, my job, my access to health and my childrens' education. Then I'll get angry and sever ties with all my my friends and family who I know have voted to put me in that position.

Laugh when the lefties get het up about building being done on the green belt land as we need more houses, hospitals, schools etc

This is what I struggle to understand, the first people round here to march and protest about land being used for building are Remain voters? But for months they have been vocally campaigning to save land for things like stag beetles? Am I missing something

lljkk Tue 21-Jun-16 13:30:19

^^ disagree we have already had these experiments across Eastern Europe, and all the rest its a disaster. The corruption across the EU is higher than its ever been and the EU does not have the tools to tackle it.

Money going to poor countries is not going anywhere bar politicians pockets. I met another Polish lady who said her government is riddled with corruption and she never wants to go home.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26014387

National governments, rather than EU institutions, are chiefly responsible for fighting corruption in the EU.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/corrupt-european-countries-costing-eu-nearly-800bn-a-year-says-study-a6944436.html

Corrupt European countries costing EU nearly £800bn a year, says study

Estimate of total annual loss more than eight times higher than previous calculations

Romania, Bulgaria and Croatia are the most corrupt countries in the EU, according to a new European Parliament study which reveals that corruption throughout Europe is costing almost £800 billion a year. The staggering sum, which equates to 6.3 per cent of overall EU-28 GDP, has prompted calls for the creation of a European Public Prosecutors’ Office as part of a crackdown on corrupt practises.

If the general election is anything to go by, I'll probably keep bursting into tears on the tube to work.

My colleagues and I are all remainers, so we'll all bitch and moan and console each other. And more than one person will bring in armfuls of cake and biscuits.

After that I will think semi-jokingly about moving to Denmark, Ireland or Canada, or maybe to Scotland in the anticipation of another independence referendum.

Another example is Margaret Thatcher's vision of how the poll tax should work, too (same charge to the person living in a castle as the person in a hovel). No, the basis of the Community Charge was that each individual adult in a household paid for the services they used, so as the single lady in her castle wasn't using any more in services than the 4 adults in the hovel, she paid less i.e: she generated less rubbish. Community Charge always seemed fair to me.

This is what I struggle to understand, the first people round here to march and protest about land being used for building are Remain voters?

The 'lefties' round here have no problem with brown fields sites for 1st and 2nd time buyer homes. There is no actual problem with building here. Its not liked but is accepted, so several sites have been put forward as acceptable places to 'loose' to building development as a pragmatic way to protect local green belt. The trouble is that the builders don't like the proposed sites and only want to develop 4 bed detached properties that no one under 40 is ever going to be able to afford. Why? Its simply about bigger profit margins.

If someone objects to the EU membership then they probably don't believe in a progressive taxation system, either.

I believe in progressive taxation and I plan to vote out.

Interesting link to Vox article that argues the EU would be better off without us anyway: www.vox.com/2016/6/21/11974600/brexit-eu-euro-disaster

To be really upset with either result I would have to be fairly sure my vote was the 'right' one, and with no certainties about what will actually result from a brexit or remain win, I don't see how anyone can be. I don't know where the confidence and certainty of all the posters who are sure they are voting for a better outcome is coming from.

I do tend to agree with you temporary

Unless you have a crystal ball no one knows what will happen leave or remain.

Get up, go to work.

Watch the pound fall, and the Euro too, and the stock market.

Watch David Cameron resign, and the Brexiteer tories start jockeying for position.

I hope it doesn't happen. I will be sad if we vote to leave.