Brexit the Movie released

[BritBrit]

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Brexit the movie has been released free for everyone to watch. It is just over 1 hour long & I found it very good & looked at the key issues to make a case to leave the EU

Thoughts?

I think the Remain campaign are insulting the people of the UK, by effectively giving us a vote of no confidence.

But that's what Clegg and the LibDems and that young video-game player featured on BBC News today are all telling us. They want us to believe we are weak and cannot manage on our own outside the EU.
Unfortunately Cameron said we would be OK / fine outside the EU because we are "a great country" - just before he later decided we would start WW3 by leaving

The Leave side is about a confidence and pride in Britain, in the knowledge that we know perfectly well how to run a country without interference

Confidence and pride are politically incorrect. They label that as patriotism and nationalism and then call you right-wing and Little Englanders for expressing pride in your country and wanting to engage with the whole world instead of constraining ourselves to a little clique of EU members on mainland Europe.

If you go as far as telling them that your uncles and great uncles fought and died to ensure Britain was a free country they think you've gone total swivel-eyed loon.

Shame really.

Here's a review of that propaganda film that offers some context m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=787984157970262&id=642444842524195&_rdr

WidowWadman I don't think it is propaganda, it provides a sensible view of Brexit & yes it is 1 sided (because it is only about Brexit) but it does make some very good points on key issues e.g. trade, EU regulation, comparisons with non EU nations & Britain leaving the EU

Brilliant review of this propaganda movie there and it is propaganda, I just love how the point is repeatedly made by spring and brit about any information going the other way is "vested interest" but this movie is gospel truth.

Your arguments are utterly ridiculous.

Propaganda is the scaremongering pro-EU government leaflet which cost £9 million to send to every home in the country.

This movie is propaganda Winter, its not exactly objective, surely you can see that.

Also it keeps pointing out Switzerland as a non EU member that is successful, but Switzerland pays into the EU and has freedom of movement, would this be a good resolution to the situation for you?

It also, repeats again and again, the £350 million a week piece of information, which has been proved again and again to be incorrect and the "55 time" information which has been proved to be an inaccurate reading of the way that the EU works.

So it really fits as propaganda, you know cause it continues to misinform people for a political end.

At least Brexit: The Movie is independently made, and crowdfunded by members of the public to back its production and distribution.

Contrast this with the pro-EU which received EU funding and was shown on the BBC.

The BBC claimed "No EU money was used in the making of the programme being aired on the BBC. Impartiality is of paramount importance for the BBC." However, The TaxPayers’ Alliance published an investigation and found the movie did receive EU funding:

The BBC denied ‘The Great European Disaster Movie’ was EU-funded: that was untrue

If the BBC is so impartial, why isn't it broadcasting "Brexit: The Movie"?

I don't think the BBC is impartial. In fact one of the saddest things about the EU referendum is that among the people that I know, regard for the BBC has diminished. A year ago I would have marched on the streets to protect the BBC, now I no longer trust its news output on many issues. Such a shame.

Because it was only released last week, its free to view to all that want to see it etc?

The production company recieved EU funding to translate it into other languages not for the making of it.

Keep clutching at straws, just like UKIP bringing up the EU funding of the BBC being £22 milllion since 2007, do you know how much £22 million is in terms of BBC funding? in One year its 0.55 % so across 9 years its minuscule!

When you think of all the other things that could be done with £22 million I don't think it's miniscule at all.

Just watched it. It is thinly veiled propaganda. I am stunned that anyone with half a brain could fall for this crap. Its arguments are circular in places (e.g. we don't need trade deals, but if we were out of the EU we could make better trade deals). It's full of conspiracy theories and makes quite a lot of saying we shouldn't be governed by something we don't understand (well why not study it and understand it if you're that bothered?). It's made me quite cross.

Also, the major flaw in this movie is that it holds Switzerland up as the model, which both contributes to the EU, has freedom of movement, as well as having to adopt EU laws in terms of exports and doesn't have an agreement on services.

Not really what the Brexit crowd are looking for.

On the "crowd funding" element of this film, the interesting thing about that is anyone can donate, so it hides vested interests.

But then every pro EU source has vested interests apparenty, where as this film which is not objective and essentially presents the views of the director Martin Durkin who is both a global warming denier and a neo liberal economics fan. He was also warned about misrepresenting facts in previous documentaries.

22 Million across 9 years that is granted for use in specific projects is not significant.

lets say that the BBC budget has been 4bn for the last 9 years which gives it 36 Billion. Its 0.061% of the BBC budget across that time and you are accusing the BBC of being biased in favour of the EU because of that?

I've just watched it and I'm quite cross that I'm being accused of having half a brain. In fact I think it's best for my health if I just avoid these threads on MN because the vitriol and the increasingly aggressive patronising tone of some is ruining the site for me.

Well, sorry cat, it is propaganda, it doesn't offer balance and its made by someone who has been reprimanded by OFCOM for misrepresenting facts.

No don't go Thecat, your views are as valid as the next person's.

Each person I've spoken to is going to vote based on their real life experience - my hairdresser just told me she's voting out because she feels like a stranger in her local area because there are so many Poles - who are sending money home, not earning enough to pay a huge amount of tax, who undercut her painter boyfriend for business, live 10 to a house....her quality of life has declined. My parents are voting out because the EU has morphed in their opinion from a trading bloc to a political project and they feel if they vote in they don't know what they are voting for anyway as there is no way of knowing what the EU will look like in 5, 10 years (we're one of 28 now - will we be one of 35 in that timeframe - their question: what influence do we have in the EU now? (not much), what influence will we have then?)

No one I speak to is arguing about this at the levels and in the minutae that people from both sides are on here. It is basically a reaction to how people perceive the EU to have affected their everyday lives.

Doesn't really matter whether ISIS want us in or out or whether the EU is like Hitler - those Oxbridge educated men look like buffoons - they should be ashamed of themselves. Where are the women in this discussion?

Where are the women in this discussion?

I've been very impressed with Pritti Patel for the LEAVE side. Ruth Lea used to be Question Time years ago arguing agains the EU and it's good to see her back on our screens. Baroness Jenny Jones , one of the co-founders of the Green Party is a LEAVE campaigner with her catchy GreenLeaves campaign. Penny Mordaunt has been quite effective. On the Press side Julia Hartley-Brewer is often making the LEAVE case.

On the REMAIN side we see Amber Rudd and Anna Soubray - who stated on Question Time that all trade would cease if with left the EU (to howls of laughter from the audience). There's also Nicola Sturgeon and Angela Eagles.

icedbunny6 I agree - people I speak to can also think for themselves, and are casting their votes based on their personal experiences of the EU. And they’ve told me similar reasons to yours. I’m afraid you’ll get mercilessly mocked by some posters on here though, for knowing people who don’t religiously analyse data or read peer-reviewed articles before they decide how to vote.

Springing an impressive list of women there. I particularly admire Priti Patel and think she'll go far.

Springing into action- women have done a great job promoting Brexit, particularly those you have mentioned, the women4Brexit group has also done good work

One of the reasons I am voting to leave is touched on in the Brexit film, but it is not getting nearly enough attention. It is summed up beautifully in this article by Harvard Professor Calestous Juma.

Everyone should be concerned about this. Keeping Africa poor is not only morally wrong, it is partially responsible for the migration crisis we see in Lampedousa. It is illogical to criticise economic migrants while preventing them from making a success of themselves at home.

capx.co/how-the-eu-starves-africa-into-submission/

I agree Calamara. That's a very interesting link.

I've hardly heard Africa mentioned at all in the EU debate but it's really important that the truth is heard.

Calamara Thank you for that important link.

This is the full version

A version with subtitles is being realised tomorrow.

The Left are trying to raise funding for LEXIT the Movie - the Left's case for Leaving the EU. They are trying to raise £15K from crowd-funding

Thanks for the heads up about Lexit the Movie Springing, looks exciting! Will keep an eye on it to see when it's released, and look forward to watching it.